>>8526209>If weapons not being integral parts of the robot is okay then I don't see why parts-forming to a certain degree should be frowned upon.There's a difference between a weapon being a vehicle part and a piece of the vehicle just coming off. Things like Apeface's tailfins aren't ideal but they're understandable, but Cliffjumper and Arcee just have massive parts of the vehicle come off and they don't do anything with them. If Arcee's backpack could transform into a more convincing hoversled then I could buy it a little better, but the only thing to do with Cliffjumper's is to just put it on the robot mode's back, at which point it might as well not have been a separate piece at all.
A good use of weapons as vehicle parts is in T30 Hoist and Trailbreaker, where the crane and canopy can attach to the vehicle, but the vehicle still looks presentable without it.
