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>>10666616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvTJVc_1WU
Not the Mistika, but the set designer for Nuparu Mahri said that they were only given the general premise of the heroes going underwater. They weren't told who the characters were or what weapons they had, that was decided on later by the story team after the sets were designed. So I assume that process is the same for every other year, including the Mistika

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 11:06:53 No.10666666 Report

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>>10666616
Also, not sure where the rumour came from, but I heard that the Toa Inika were originally supposed to get 3 years before going back to the Toa Nuva, so there could be a timeline where we're talking about how Jaller Mistika had too much grey

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 11:32:08 No.10666687 Report

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>>10666666
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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 11:59:42 No.10666707 Report

Quoted By: >>10666739 >>10672378

>>10666663
It more or less confirms things we'd heard before, that everything around Bionicle is kind of done in a vacuum. Set design, story for that year, etc, all of it isn't done in conjunction, but built on one another. Which in a way, is kinda fucked, but Lego is a toy company first and foremost. Getting the toy right was probably their focus, and everything else was just secondary.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 12:25:47 No.10666739 Report

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>>10666707
>Getting the toy right was probably their focus
Should've checked their lime green plastic quality, then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 12:59:18 No.10666779 Report

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>>10666666
double devil sex

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 14:53:06 No.10666927 Report

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>>10666666
Nice get

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 15:00:43 No.10666942 Report

Quoted By: >>10666966 >>10667045

>>10666454
So I never owned a Vakam Hordika before. Does his mask popp into place ocer the eyes? I had Matau and Nuju and their masks just loosely fell into place without any resistance. Is this normal for Vakama or does mine have a weird defect?

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 15:17:40 No.10666966 Report

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>>10666942
I never owned any of the hordika sets, I always thought you had to slide the mask from the front so the little grooves here would keep it held in with the bohrok eyes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 15:39:14 No.10666992 Report

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>>10666966
The actual underside of the mask has support ridges your render doesn't even show. You place the mask down from above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 15:43:41 No.10667003 Report

Quoted By: >>10667032

Isnt there a grey piece you attach the bohrok eyes and the helmet to, then secure them with an axle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 15:59:38 No.10667032 Report

Quoted By: >>10667037 >>10667045 >>10667191 >>10667341

>>10667003
yes
i'm pretty sure it was made specifically for those sets even
i own vakama and ownea hordika and their heads are designed to slot in on top of it while resting on the bohrok eyes and then get locked in with an axel
side note, I love Rahi and the concept of Rahi-Mutants was cool and all, but when I rebuilt my vakama hordika after all these years man did it not age well
i'll be honest, i think it just kinda sucks
the face and right arm looks cool sure, but the body is so weird and ungainly, and the legs look far too spindly yet have giant clown shoes for feet
>but it's a debilitating mutation
yeah i get that i'm not saying they shouldn't look weird, but I don't think they look weird in a way that was intentional by the designers
the one little dinky toa leg they used for the left arm is the worst part; it sticks out like a sore thumb and can barely move or do anything on it. it looks completely out of place.
the Hordika were really cool ideas but they just didn't stick the landing

[spoiler:lit]I remember having the Hordika Vakama Halloween Costume as a kid though, so I won't deny that I thought he was awesome when I was younger. Kinda funny. I'm still kind of nostalgically fond of him, but I guess the Hordika are the one time where I think all of them actually were cooler in the movies.[/spoiler:lit]

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 16:01:16 No.10667037 Report

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>>10667032
Ok I swear that was always how spoiler tags have worked did blacktext get fucked up on here or something or has the site changed how you do it?

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 16:04:27 No.10667045 Report

Quoted By: >>10667073

>>10667032
Ey. >>10666942
If you have Vakama lemme know if I have a defect.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 16:05:28 No.10667046 Report

Quoted By: >>10667073

>>10667037
No spoiler tags on /toy/.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 16:16:17 No.10667073 Report

Quoted By: >>10667078 >>10667217

>>10667046
huh
I'm still pretty new to this specific board (I only really started posting in this general within the last week or so), glad to know at least. Thanks.
>>10667045
I got my Vakama Hordika out and removed the axel since I figured I might as well while I'm thinking about him; when I slot his mask in place there's a noticeable "click" sound and the face is then held in place by friction with it's grooves, making it easy to put the axel in to fully secure it. Otherwise it will rest in place reliably but can still be jostled into falling off with some light force.

I'm presuming this is what you were talking about, so no, your Vakama is not defective, it's normal. If I can find my Ownea Hordika mask I can check how he goes, but I'll hazard a guess and say that some of them are looser than others just by nature of having different molds, so if Nuju and Matau are much looser than Vakama that's probably just because of how they were shaped differently rather than a misprint.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 16:18:09 No.10667078 Report

Quoted By: >>10667416

>>10667073
Alright, apperciate it anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 17:25:09 No.10667191 Report

Quoted By: >>10667233 >>10667416

>>10667032
My personal theory is they originally wanted the Hordika to look like the Piraka, with soft spines and clawed feet but they probably looked too "villanous" for lego so they scrapped the idea.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 17:41:42 No.10667217 Report

Quoted By: >>10667416

>>10667073
>still pretty new to this specific board (I only really started posting in this general within the last week or so), glad to know at least. Thanks.
Go back you fucking retard

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 17:51:10 No.10667233 Report

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>>10667191
Imagine if instead of the massive teeth of the piraka we had organic spines paired with new masks. Keep the claws and spikes, but just give it He-Man or Predator energy. Now THAT would have been a slick 05.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 19:11:25 No.10667341 Report

Quoted By: >>10667354 >>10667416 >>10667903

>>10666663
Seeing how much lego raped the potential of their designers because of the engineering/ budget quota dedicated to their retarded epic revolving playmobil faggot blaster function of the year should result in their offices being bombed

>>10667032
weirdly enough i also liked the hordika a lot as a kid, but as an adult (especially after rebuilding all of mine) id say theyre just pretty shitty, but then again now I hate most of the stuff released after 2004. The titans were still good all the way until the end but the regular canister sets only had a few mediocre highlights during the mahri

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 19:20:03 No.10667354 Report

Quoted By: >>10667385

>>10667341
Canister sets got good again in the Glatorian years imo. Probably because the potato pincers were such afterthoughts that they actually had budget left to make the actual sets good.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 19:34:17 No.10667385 Report

Quoted By: >>10667556 >>10676215

>>10667354
>Canister sets got good again in the Glatorian years imo
no they didnt. they might be better than mistika/phantokashit but they were still spamming the inika build except with even less new pieces than ever. They had individual good things about them and they took some conceptual leaps back towards quality (and a few of the sets were okay for what they were, Malum for example is one of the best inika build canister sets in general) but the amount of soulless-ness and a lack of strong ideas just kill them entirely for me. Most of the glatorian sucked, and every single one of the glatorian legends sucked. Maybe if you had combined the two into one line of better ideas they mightve been good

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 19:51:32 No.10667416 Report

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>>10667191
>>10667341
That'd have been really cool honestly
Maybe I could try my hand at something like that, using the soft spines released in the later years and similar parts. Kind of like a Piraka-Hordika fusion of sorts. Could be cool.
>>10667078
You're welcome
>>10667217
Make me faggot

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 21:08:55 No.10667556 Report

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>>10667385
Also, and I cannot repeat this enough: angleshit. Nobody wants to buy more joints that crack on the second use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 21:55:37 No.10667643 Report

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>>10664876
I had a dream about one of these fuckers a few years ago

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:07:28 No.10667662 Report

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>>10666593
>Recolored metru masks
We were robbed biobros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:09:46 No.10667665 Report

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>>10666596
Any build instructions for any of those? I really wanna try making some/all of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 22:28:18 No.10667690 Report

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>>10667665
I dunno, anon, there'a an awful lot of OC donut steel fanfiction parts in there. Did you mean irreallife or just in stud.io? If the latter, there's probably just straight finished .io files for them.

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Anonymous Thu 05 Oct 2023 23:38:47 No.10667832 Report

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>>10667665
Why the fuck would you? These look like fucking ass.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 00:06:55 No.10667885 Report

Quoted By: >>10667886 >>10667942 >>10668464 >>10669322 >>10669415 >>10669430 >>10669732 >>10672411 >>10672453

Holy shit, I thought this was just a copypasta or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 00:07:54 No.10667886 Report

Quoted By: >>10672453

>>10667885
Never let the trannies into your fanbase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 00:18:57 No.10667903 Report

Quoted By: >>10668010

>>10667341
In his Pridak video, the set designer also talked about how one of the Titan sets went over budget so he had to cut down on the piece count. Though, I'm not sure if he was talking about a 2006 or 2007 Titan set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yV9T0AO-WA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 00:40:41 No.10667942 Report

Quoted By: >>10672453

>>10667885
It really does sound like one. I still don't see how becoming a Toa from a Matoran, which frankly is more like the sword in the stone where an ordinary individual becomes extraordinary, has anything to do with changing your gender.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 01:09:14 No.10668003 Report

Quoted By: >>10668022

>>10667690
As much IRL pieces as I can. Don't have to be exact copies of the MOCs. Will probably adjust the builds somewhat anyways.
>>10667832
Because it annoys people like you so much and I find that funny hahahaha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 01:13:38 No.10668010 Report

Quoted By: >>10668149

>>10667903
I'm skeptical that guy actually designed anything, he seems like a grifter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 01:18:53 No.10668022 Report

Quoted By: >>10676215

>>10668003
I mean you'd kind of have to, all those poses are illegal as shit, you can see shoulders clipping on pretty much every one of them. Amazing that these niggers go to all the effort of drowning it in greebleshit but never fix the inherently flawed articulation of the Inika build. Not that we needed any more proof that it's 100% appearance over actual design for these people.

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Anonymous !!SMatHMv1E7f Fri 06 Oct 2023 02:14:13 No.10668149 Report

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>>10668010
He definitely did. The LEGO design process at the time really was that shitty

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 02:24:07 No.10668177 Report

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>>10666666
Spooky hexes, checked.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 04:02:31 No.10668463 Report

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>>10668177
What the fuck am I looking at?

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 04:03:09 No.10668464 Report

Quoted By: >>10668468 >>10672453

>>10667885
this is why gatekeeping is important, why do these freakshows try to co-op and push every single thing into being a supportive "allegory" for their mental delusions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 04:08:05 No.10668468 Report

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>>10668464
Every bionicle forum has a similar post in the 'other topics' section: "I thought this site could use a place where we could talk about trans issues safely". Motherfucker, this is a bionicle website.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 04:40:04 No.10668498 Report

Quoted By: >>10668507 >>10668515 >>10668518 >>10668651

who is stronger

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 04:44:39 No.10668507 Report

Quoted By: >>10668510

>>10668498
Canonically the Bohrok, and it's not even close.
A few Bohrok in the Metru Nui archives were awoken to fight off an army of Rahkshi and promptly trounced them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 04:49:21 No.10668510 Report

Quoted By: >>10668517

>>10668507
Isolated incident. Rakshi were fighting Toa Nuva pretty well, while Toa Mata were ruining Bohrok.

The pic also has the Kal though. Early 6 Rakshi seemed strong, but as it went on they became fodder. Both sides have some pretty absurd powers but I'd give the edge to the Rakshi if for no other reason than they came after, and thus should be stronger narratively.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 04:51:18 No.10668515 Report

Quoted By: >>10668520

>>10668498
Probably the Kal. They immediately went for the Toa Nuva symbols, casually knocked Wairuha Nuva aside, and the Toa Nuva didn't even truly defeat them. They just overloaded their powers until they killed themselves. Meanwhile, the Rahkshi only really managed to poison Tahu and drain Onua's powers. And the fact that they were minor antagonists for the novice Toa Metru to beat on their way to fighting Krahka made them look even more pathetic

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 04:53:29 No.10668517 Report

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>>10668510
The Bohrok also came in swarms, don't forget that. A team of 6 Rahkshi would be pretty overwhelmed when fighting against the full force of the Bohrok swarm, but if it's just 6 random Bohrok then the Rahkshi will have the edge over them

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 04:54:19 No.10668518 Report

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>>10668498
depends on the writer/individuals i guess, IMO
a lone Bohrok probably would lose to a lone Rahkshi but are better at co-ordinating and fighting with a group so even if they're outnumbered three Bohrok could probably take on ten Rahkshi and win
Bohrok-Kal are just Bohrok+ and are very intelligent though so they could win the 1v1
Makuta's specific Rahkshi definitely are stronger than any other generic ones that get shown off though, and while it's arguable that it's a "conversion of numbers" thing, it would make sense in-universe to me still, so the OG Six Rahkshi specifically would probably take any of them in a fight and come out on top.

Unless the Bohrok-Kal are allowed to fight with their stolen Nuva Symbol battery power ups, in which case they have plot armor so absurdly stretched not even the Great Spirit could make strokes that fuckin broad.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 04:56:47 No.10668520 Report

Quoted By: >>10668527

>>10668515
Important to note that they formed their own Kaita in-universe to deal with Wairuha, the Rahkshi have been shown to canonically make their own Kaita as well and the only reason the Kal were so jacked was because they stole the power of the symbols. And iirc, it's implied that part of the plan with the Bohrok Queens was for them to do that specifically because they would not be able to defeat the Toa Nuva otherwise, much less free the Queens from their prison.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 05:06:36 No.10668527 Report

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>>10668520
The Bohrok Kal also fought depowered Toa Nuva. They had the easier enemies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 06:06:41 No.10668589 Report

Quoted By: >>10668706 >>10669092

>“You’re an archivist!” Vakama exploded. “You are supposed to be able to identify the Rahi we run up against! Otherwise, what good are you?”
>The others stared at the Toa of Fire, shocked at the outburst. Whenua, stunned and hurt, said nothing. It was Onewa who jumped to his friend’s defense. “If we had turned back when the storm started, or sent a scouting party, like I suggested, we wouldn’t be in this mess. But you were in such a hurry to get back here so we could leave again that —”
>“I am in a hurry to save the Matoran, as you should be,” Vakama shot back. “I made a promise to Toa Lhikan, and I intend to keep it.”
>“Did you make that promise when you let him get captured, or when he died saving your mask?” the Toa of Stone said, turning away. “I am starting to think it is not very healthy to be your friend.”
>“Far healthier than being my enemy,” Vakama answered, a nimbus of flames surrounding his hands. “If you have a problem with me or my leadership, carver, let’s hear it.”
>Onewa spun on his heel, took three long strides forward, and thrust his mask right up to Vakama’s. “I have a problem with you, your leadership, your attitude, and your akilini-headed idea that only you have to live up to the legacy of Lhikan. We all do! We all have friends lying in Makuta-sleep under the Coliseum, and we all want to save them! We all know the price of failure! So get down off your Toa statue before I knock you down!”
I never realised how much of a massive, overbearing asshole Vakama became in between LoMN and WoS. It certainly makes his fall to darkness more believable, and why he regrets his actions as a leader so much.
It's also interesting to see how important Onewa was, especially considering how little screentime in the movie. He was basically the second-in-command of the Toa Metru.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 06:31:34 No.10668618 Report

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Does anybody know who made this or how to build it? Looks like they posted it then deleted all their accounts

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 07:09:13 No.10668651 Report

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>>10668498
Depends on the Kraata stage desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 08:23:28 No.10668692 Report

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>>10668618
Dunno where you're looking, found this instantly using reverse search: https://board.ttvchannel.com/t/the-toahunga/67939/10 has a few more pics, looks fairly straightforward. There's a breakdown of the torso in the replies too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 08:43:04 No.10668706 Report

Quoted By: >>10668782

>>10668589
I didnt have onewa as a kid (I only later and semi recently in fact bought all 6 metru) but for some reason I always thought he was cool as fuck, especially after the movie. The weapon he has in the movie seems even cooler than the slightly weird chain pickaxe-hook things in the set, and the miramax mask looked even better than the real one. His personality was a great contrast to Pohatu, with how they kind of took the asshole/anger aspect out of the fire leader Toa and outsourced it to the stone one to create a more interesting dynamic, since it also let Vakama be way more complex and less like a generic hero

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 11:18:17 No.10668782 Report

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>>10668706
>“I still say this is a mistake,” said Onewa. “We could be walking right into an ambush.”
>“My visions would have warned me,” the Toa of Fire said calmly. “And they haven’t. You’ll see, Onewa, before you know it we will be safely back on the island with our friends. We are Toa, after all — a few spiders aren’t going to stop us.”
Vakama's overconfidence and self-destructive hero complex are definitely unique flaws to give a leader character. Sometimes it feels like he's one bad day away from ending up like Lesovikk

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 16:50:22 No.10669092 Report

Quoted By: >>10669111

>>10668589
I'll always say it. Onewa is the best Toa Metru.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 17:00:42 No.10669111 Report

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>>10669092
Onewa deserved that emotional apology scene from WoS. He was robbed!

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 17:03:18 No.10669114 Report

Quoted By: >>10669116 >>10669245 >>10669250

I barely remember the character's personalities now since it's been ages since I touched any of the story media, but the Metru being notably more conflict made for more interesting characters, probably because they all had their own backgrounds.
The Mata's conflicts were, from what I remember, limited to teamwork and surface level tensions between just elemental -personality alignments.
I wonder if that's because they were built Toa and were amnesiac, rather than starting out as laboring Matoran and having a more or less fleshed out backstory.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 17:05:56 No.10669116 Report

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>>10669114
i suppose that's probably the best in-universe explanation for it yeah

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 18:34:27 No.10669245 Report

Quoted By: >>10669252 >>10669267 >>10669311

>>10669114
The Matoran civil war had major impact on the (best) Toa Metru.
>"Firespitter"
>Matau and Onewa are hostile to Vakama most of the time
>Nokama always has Vakama's back
>Onewa and Whenua bump heads at the beginning
>Traces of the war between Ta, Ga and Onu-Metru vs Le, Po and Ko-Metru still remains
>They all eventually overcome their prejudice for eachother from a war long gone
>The Fire and Water Toa always get along great, while the Air Toa's attempts to flirt with her always fail in getting cucked by Fire
I also prefer that over:
>"Me angry because Fire! I am Tahu, grrr!"
>"Me no like water, because muh elements.."

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 18:39:51 No.10669250 Report

Quoted By: >>10669422 >>10669945

>>10669114
I think it's pretty reductive to say that Kopaka's a loner just because he's Ice, for example, but reductionism is what I've come to expect from Metrufags.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 18:40:11 No.10669252 Report

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>>10669245
>"Me no like water, because muh elements.."
I never understood that, Tahu only had major conflicts with Kopaka in the books and comics before the movie.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 18:45:27 No.10669267 Report

Quoted By: >>10669627

>>10669245
why do you have that image saved

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 19:23:11 No.10669311 Report

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>>10669245
you're being pretty disingenuous towards the Mata, even if Tahu is prone to rash choices it stems more from initial overconfidence and being too focused on the goals to the point it would interfere with his attempts at leading or communicating over him just being a dick because he's the fire guy. He also only really had any big conflicts with Kopaka in the lore, and Kopaka was also equally as much of a dick (also stemming from arrogance, but mostly him having a large distrust of others and not being confident with trusting them)
Pohatu is very much unlike most later stone-associated characters and was a cheerful eccentric guy, Onua was peaceful and wise to the extent of managing to achieve non-violent solutions to many problems due to his commitment to it, Gali wanted to be calm and help be a mediator between arguments but had moments where she struggled her with anger, really the only one I think you could call "generic element guy" is Lewa because he's the jokey funny air dude, and even then that was deliberate because Lewa's refusal to take the danger they're against seriously led to him getting harshly smacked down by the world and he's humbled afterwords. By the time of the movie he's still pretty jokey and affable but he's far quicker to take things seriously and doesn't make the same mistakes.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 19:24:38 No.10669312 Report

Quoted By: >>10672704 >>10673043

>>10668618
>chopped up bars
>fucking tires
>exo-force robot arm fingers
>ankles don't bend
A true masterclass in how not to build a small-mid-size MOC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 19:31:44 No.10669322 Report

Quoted By: >>10672453

>>10667885
Mask of life is about a god desending into a planet to wage war against the black ones

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 20:52:53 No.10669415 Report

Quoted By: >>10669420 >>10669430 >>10672453

>>10667885
I used to think Takanuva was a girl because he had the same limb-layout as Gali Nuva.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 20:58:14 No.10669420 Report

Quoted By: >>10669424

>>10669415
What's funny is that the troons probably actually cite that as "proof".

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 20:59:32 No.10669422 Report

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>>10669250
Not what I said (also not a Metrufag but whatever)
My point was just from memory that the Mata's conflicts weren't as dramatic as Metru, and was wondering if never having struggled as Matoran played into that.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 20:59:59 No.10669424 Report

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>>10669420
In that case here's another proud nuva-limbs-for-arms transwoman lol.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 21:03:52 No.10669430 Report

Quoted By: >>10669450 >>10669475 >>10672453

>>10669415
The virgin Transkanuva vs. the chad Femboy of Light

>>10667885
It could kinda be seen that way, but considering it was about 20 years before the woke pandering era it most likely wasn’t
Also I stalked their account and found this so make of it what you will

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 21:07:53 No.10669438 Report

Quoted By: >>10669632

>>10669424
Kek, I'l give them that one.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 21:16:42 No.10669450 Report

Quoted By: >>10670359

>>10669430
HWNBAM (MOCist)

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 21:21:46 No.10669456 Report

Quoted By: >>10669623 >>10671634

This made me smile. Feeling kinda like a fanservice Star Wars member berry, but I'm falling for it.

LET'S GO, KARDA NUI VEHICLES VS. BARA MAGNA VEHICLES.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 21:31:59 No.10669475 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669430
Yes

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 22:04:45 No.10669525 Report

Quoted By: >>10669530

>>10666454
Going live streaming Super Takua 64

https://rumble.com/v3nh4od-impromptu-livestream-super-takua-64.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 22:07:08 No.10669530 Report

Quoted By: >>10669677

>>10669525
Was this by the guy who fucked his underage sister

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 22:27:39 No.10669568 Report

Quoted By: >>10669626

>>10668463
It's the credits to a hentai music video. It's full of fire screen wipes, one of which has the Torch Slizer coming at the screen and shooting an array of flames. In fact near the end the guy in the hentai seems to become the fire Slizer. as his head is set ablaze and this image appears over him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 22:56:10 No.10669623 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669456
That's slick, is it from the new update?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 22:57:11 No.10669626 Report

Quoted By: >>10669678

>>10669568
wtf lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 22:57:13 No.10669627 Report

Quoted By: >>10669662 >>10670083

>>10669267
As a moviefag, I'm glad the artist went with the Legends of Metru Nui design. Much sexier than any of her toy designs. Of course, I wouldn't turn down lewds of this literal sex machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 22:59:09 No.10669632 Report

Quoted By: >>10669687 >>10669824

>>10669424
>>10669438
>pridak
>pride-ack
barraki bros... not like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 23:12:00 No.10669662 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669627
The movies were really weird in that some characterizations were spot on but some others were just all kinds of fucked, and this is the same for designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 23:21:22 No.10669677 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669530
No, this is the guys who got cancelled for liking a stonetoss post

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 23:21:30 No.10669678 Report

Quoted By: >>10672977

>>10669626
https://www.iwara.tv/video/zOmR14oREgdQ9Y/hmv-stringendo-torch-fire
Here's the whole thing. You gotta watch, and listen, to believe it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 23:26:00 No.10669687 Report

Quoted By: >>10669824

>>10669632
Bonus: They were mutated by the pit, so it's forced feminization, monstergirls, AND guro all in one, lithe, feminine (male), shark-shaped package.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 23:50:43 No.10669732 Report

Quoted By: >>10669738 >>10669755 >>10669787 >>10672453

>>10667885
>everything is an allegory
Look, it's one thing if a piece of media leads you to discover something about yourself. To try and imply that was its prime directive without input from the creators is egotistically presumptuous.
It would be amusing if at any point a producer or someone came out and said "We were just making a movie for a toy company, we weren't making any statements about gender identity."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 23:51:54 No.10669738 Report

Quoted By: >>10669755

>>10669732
There's a reason some people call them cultists. Trannies are mentally ill drones who feel the need to project themselves into anything and everything to receive validation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 00:01:49 No.10669755 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669732
>>10669738
yeah i couldn't put it better myself
it's delusional egotistical and patronizing as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 00:22:11 No.10669787 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669732
But anon, creative intent doesn't matter because the devil is channeling his evil power through us without our knowledge. That's what Little Brotherhood Studios told me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 00:22:56 No.10669792 Report

Quoted By: >>10669799 >>10669948

lego really fucked up with not releasing anything to make all the metru matoran from the toa cd's
i get they were hurting for cash at the time but bionicle was still big enough to were it probably would've been worth it to do another mask pack with the silver moulding and just recolour the other parts in the tubs or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 00:27:20 No.10669799 Report

Quoted By: >>10669839

>>10669792
Switching from mask packs to disk packs was the worst mistake they ever made, right up there with never releasing rebuilt Le or Onu Matoran. Nobody gave a shit about the disk packs, but they profit margins on them must have been better than the mask packs I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 00:49:38 No.10669824 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669632
>>10669687
>their armies take 41% casualties even before the Brotherhood shows up
They never had a chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 00:56:28 No.10669839 Report

Quoted By: >>10670284

>>10669799
>Switching from mask packs to disk packs was the worst mistake they ever made
I would argue that every subsequent collector pack downgrade was worse, it wasn't falling from as great a height but it was sinking to a much lower depth.
I mean, plain plastic balls as collectibles? Seriously?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 01:08:21 No.10669856 Report

Quoted By: >>10669861 >>10669862 >>10669864 >>10669919 >>10673707

>want to get a better idea of the Tia’s stories
>most of those primarily come from books made for children

Is it worth reading all of these

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 01:11:52 No.10669861 Report

Quoted By: >>10669864

>>10669856
>the Tia’s stories
What did he mean by this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 01:12:35 No.10669862 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669856
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 01:12:56 No.10669864 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669861
He's curious about the story of his Spanish aunt. Not sure why she's featured in children's books.

>>10669856
Also yes? Read them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 01:37:12 No.10669919 Report

Quoted By: >>10669974

>>10669856
I think the only book I disliked reading so far was the novelization of Mask of Light, but that's mostly because I didn't like how a lot of the characters were written uncharacteristically. But yeah, I'd recommend the books. At the very least, you can play MNOG to get the gist of 2001's story

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 01:53:33 No.10669945 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669250
To be fair, it WAS the first year of the toyline. It would make sense that they went with more simplistic personalities (fire guy is hot headed, ice guy is a cold loner, etc) since they're not quite sure how far to take it quite yet. They just slowly got more characterization over time. I'd say they became fully formed characters by 2003
>Bohrok Kal animations
>CA Hapka books
>Mask of Light movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 01:54:50 No.10669948 Report

Quoted By: >>10669955

>>10669792
Was 2004 a bad year for them financially? I thought Bionicle got them a shit ton of money, especially the Bohrok

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 01:57:27 No.10669955 Report

Quoted By: >>10669978

>>10669948
2003/2004 was when lego realized they were pretty fucked financially after a string of dumb decisions starting in the mid 90's and cut down budgets on everything not essential
lots of colours and parts were taken out of the catalogue, with a handful of them only recently coming back into production

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 02:09:20 No.10669974 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669919
Novelizations don't really count as books imo
I don't think I've read a single one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 02:10:37 No.10669978 Report

Quoted By: >>10670009

>>10669955
Well, damn. What were their worst decisions? Or is there a video that covers all of this in depth I could watch instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 02:31:15 No.10670009 Report

Quoted By: >>10670047

>>10669978
One word: Galidor. It cost a lot of money and it never caught on by the time it came out in 2002.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 03:03:15 No.10670047 Report

Quoted By: >>10670113

>>10670009
All this time, I always assumed Galidor came out before Bionicle like RoboRiders and Slizers, not smack dab in the middle of its run

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 03:25:13 No.10670083 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669627
Nokooma poster here, I agree.
>Teacher
>Milf energy
She's the best

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 03:44:58 No.10670113 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670047
Yeah they were 2002 if I iirc correctly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 06:28:45 No.10670276 Report

Quoted By: >>10670277 >>10670980 >>10671672 >>10676215

>Inika build again
>actual designs range from a straight generic Inika/Mahri clone to an ugly striiped down backwards Piraka torso
>Awful fucking colour scheme on every single one except maybe Onua, including
>overdose of way too much fucking grey and silver, although the later might have been fine if there wasn't an
>inexplicable split of the grey and silver between the two waves, meaning that they didn't even look like a consistent team
>Excessive focus on blasters
>3 of them LITERALLY only have an attachment on their blaster in lieu of a real weapon
>Other 3 weapons are respectively generic, not even a real weapon piece, or a forgettable mix of (also generic) weapon pieces slapped together
>Ugly mask designs, looking only remotely like their real Kanohi Nuva at best and completely ass-pulled at worst
>exact same eyestalks, showcasing Lego's absolute descent into cheap bastardery, cementing the "lime good orange bad" philosophy that would govern all remaining mask-wearing sets, and just generally looking awful
And of course let's not forget
>introduced angleshit joints, permanently souring any poor kid that bought them on the line for its remaining lifespan
Copy-pasted, but this is some guy's problems with the Mistika and Phantoka. Is it possible to fix these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 06:33:23 No.10670277 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670276
>Is it possible to fix these?
Yeah, all you have to do is get the fuck over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 06:47:04 No.10670284 Report

Quoted By: >>10670441

>>10669839
>I mean, plain plastic balls as collectibles? Seriously?

The idea I guess is that they're just refills in case your cordak blaster lodges a ball into someone's skull and you can't get it back out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 08:21:14 No.10670359 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669450
Building something that feels like an official set can be fun, but you just know their shit’s just a bunch of Phantoka Lewa recolors

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 11:08:57 No.10670441 Report

Quoted By: >>10670521

>>10670284
Cordaks are the Mahri minigun.
You are talking about Zamor launchers anon.
Cordak blasters were weak af but looked badass imo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 11:22:03 No.10670447 Report

Quoted By: >>10670457 >>10670649 >>10670783 >>10680913

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/4daf2cfe-314a-4fb2-8cf0-5900f97ebff4

So this thing is STILL in review. Has there ever been an Ideas set that's been in review for this long?
>inb4 waaah I hate it
Didn't ask.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 11:36:45 No.10670457 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670447
There's no way it's getting approved. Bionicle fans are great a loud minority

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 12:28:38 No.10670491 Report

Quoted By:

>The Rahkshi made another effort to slip past its opponent, only to be batted away by one of the Kahgarak’s powerful legs. At this point, the spider evidently became bored with the whole conflict. It launched its Rhotuka spinner at its foe. When the spinner struck, a field of shadow suddenly appeared around the startled Rahkshi. An instant later, the Rahkshi was gone, swallowed completely by the darkness.
Rahkshi are the biggest jobbers in the franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 13:07:10 No.10670521 Report

Quoted By: >>10670540 >>10670935

>>10670441
I honestly think their appearance, cool as a rotary six-barreled bolter is in theory, worked to their detriment, since having a big bulky elaborate assembly gun really solidified blaster creep. I'd make the argument that zamor launchers and even squid launchers were more palatable because they were still a largely simple accessory rather than a big obnoxious lump that took over the associated canister sets. Really Hahli is the only Mahri who doesn't feel like she's built around having the Cordak as her primary weapon. Jaller to a lesser extent as well, but only because his is part of a whole separate pet-mounted build in his set.
Larger point, though, is that the damn things didn't fucking work most of the time, and when they did you were having to slam them hard enough that it doesn't even qualify as a shooter function with the effort involved for the payoff. System flick-fire missiles are a better projectile system at that point. Ironically, though 2008 was blaster fatigue in full swing, both the skyblaster and ghostblaster worked fantastically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 13:25:18 No.10670540 Report

Quoted By: >>10670578 >>10670748

>>10670521
It sucks that Lego relied on guns and shooters way too much by the end of the franchise. It's like their creativity and ability to make new toy functions just tanked after 2006

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 13:59:51 No.10670578 Report

Quoted By: >>10670580 >>10670601

>>10670540
true, I feel as so the guns could have been cooler if the build continued along the technic sort of swag the original line had. I think the future Bionicles certainly lacked a certain magic that the bohrok and the original squad had (and the metru dudes). and im not even nostalgia poisoned either my first Bionicles where post the metru nui ark.

I also think the creativity in general kind of tanked post 2006 cause of farshtey (story wise), people seem to like him but hes just kind of a retard basedboy to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 14:00:52 No.10670580 Report

Quoted By: >>10670582

>>10670578
why tf cant i say onions b0y wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 14:01:53 No.10670582 Report

Quoted By: >>10670583

>>10670580
dude, what is with that filter lol, can say onions on here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 14:02:54 No.10670583 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670582
WHAT THE FUCK !!!!!!!!

Suh-oyy boy***

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 14:25:58 No.10670601 Report

Quoted By: >>10670621

>>10670578
It's not like Greg's the only one responsible for the story going the direction it did. There's an entire team that worked on the story, not to mention having to try and cram what the marketing team wanted into the story as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 14:51:37 No.10670621 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670601
yeah but trying to cramp marvel references into every inch of the story didnt help man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 15:13:04 No.10670649 Report

Quoted By: >>10670731 >>10670740 >>10672999

>>10670447
I don't see it being approved. Maybe it's a cool idea, but it's a bad design for a set, the whole thing is basically just made from boring grey brick and slope pieces. It's not going to sell.

It might sell well if they include a mask like the Hau shown, possibly in a new color,
but I doubt they even still have the molds for the 2001 masks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 16:54:26 No.10670731 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670649
It's basically just an in-house version of those shitty Marvel and Star Wars busts they make. Idk why you doubt it. Also, that's the Hau from 2010, so they might still at least have that mold. If not they could always just forego it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 16:59:11 No.10670740 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670649
I'd unironically buy it if they included the Mask of Ultimate Power. I'd accept that as an apology for Lego's biggest FUCK YOU of all time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 17:09:42 No.10670748 Report

Quoted By: >>10671340

>>10670540
Because that got in the way of articulation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 17:48:55 No.10670783 Report

Quoted By: >>10671082

>>10670447
I'd buy out the Lego Store's entire stock if they sold this. Bionicle needs to come back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 19:32:02 No.10670935 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670521
>ghostblaster worked fantastically.
that thing didn't work at all lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 19:38:15 No.10670953 Report

Quoted By: >>10670998 >>10671077 >>10671241 >>10671340

Blaster mechanics were fine in my opinion, because play mechanics got in the way of articulation.
It's why the Metru suck so much in my eyes, as they're among the single least articulated things in the series history

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 19:49:24 No.10670980 Report

Quoted By: >>10670982 >>10671186 >>10671232

>>10670276
>Ugly mask designs, looking only remotely like their real Kanohi Nuva at best and completely ass-pulled at worst
I don't get why Greg and the story group didn't just make them brand new masks given by Artakha. Half of them were made obsolete by the adaptive armor anyway. What use is a mask of levitation when Lewa can fly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 19:50:03 No.10670982 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670980
Nuva mask, share it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 19:58:13 No.10670998 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670953
play mechanics > articulation imo

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Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 20:52:26 No.10671077 Report

Quoted By: >>10671080 >>10671176 >>10671180 >>10671198 >>10671362 >>10671794

>>10670953
Aesthetics > Articulation
I care nothing about the Mata build, they look horrible.
>Different arms on all of them
>Weird hands with 2 fingers each
>No hands to hold weapons in, but instead a type of weapon holster
>Fucking upside down torso for one of the Toa
The only way to excuse this could be the fact that the Mata were little more than corpses when they appeared on the island, with most of their tissue rotted away. Little more than minced meat.
The Metru are so pleasing to look at and have even more joints than the Mata (AKA more articulation than the Mata)
>Clone builds
Thats a design choice. Consistency is not a negative.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 20:55:47 No.10671080 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671077
>I like things that look NORMAL, GENERIC, and SAMEY.
>Anything that deviates from the NORM is something UGLY and STUPID.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 20:57:53 No.10671082 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670783
Sorry anon, but a bunch of system bricks forming the shape of a Matoran skull doesn't really resemble Bionicle as a toy line.
Bionicle coming back will only happen if they remake the old molds, and start producing G1 all over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:11:16 No.10671176 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671077
Yeah but do they have to have that fucking problem with their shoulders?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:14:07 No.10671180 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671077
unironically shit take
all the Mata had personality and character because they were all distinct; they each used the build in different ways and they're the most memorable and iconic team even to this day as a result, even without bendable joints I still view them as the best just for the great designs and how fun they were as a kid. Knocking off masks was also pretty fun.

Mahri get to be second since they kind of tried to deviate a bit with them too, and the underwater stuff was pretty cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:23:47 No.10671186 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670980
Coming up with 6 new mask powers was hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:30:11 No.10671198 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671077
God, I fucking hate Metru cucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 22:52:27 No.10671232 Report

Quoted By: >>10671343

>>10670980
Only Lewa's was obsolete, and they're still Nuva powers meaning they can be shared

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2023 23:02:11 No.10671241 Report

Quoted By: >>10671328 >>10676215

>>10670953
You say that as if the focus on blasters didn't utterly stagnate any progress on the actual set design.

Like you realize the literally the only articulation the metru are missing compared to any cookie-cutter inika build is ball jointed shoulders?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:06:38 No.10671328 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671241
>He thinks the Metru aren't cookie cutter themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:15:57 No.10671340 Report

Quoted By: >>10671344 >>10671413 >>10671754 >>10676215

>>10670748
>>10670953
Here's the final brickpill: the Inika build was absolutely fucking terrible for articulation. Hips and shoulders can't rotate or angle inwards and elbows and knees are locked to only one axis. Try crossing an Inika build figure's arms or folding its legs.
Now, it's fine if a design isn't great for articulation so long as they keep experimenting with it. They did not do that. They settled on it in 2006 and literally kept using it for constraction for a straight 10 YEARS. Every generic CCBS skeleton was ultimately still an Inika build, and the first wave of G2 was just Inika build with a gear function. They started actually trying to do something different again with the Uniters, then G2 got shitcanned and they kept using the Inika build for Star Wars figures for the rest of CCBS's remaining lifespan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:17:55 No.10671343 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671232
I would assume the Kaukau is as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:17:57 No.10671344 Report

Quoted By: >>10671352

>>10671340
honestly just some waist and shoulder articulation would do wonders

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:21:08 No.10671352 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671344
>waist
Yeah that too, but nobody really does waist articulation so I left it out.
Maxilos was probably the best articulated set we ever got (body-wise only, his legs and elbows were sadly par for the course) but he suffered from both weight-related floppiness and a lot of armour plates that get in the way of his shoulders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:26:24 No.10671362 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671077
This is why nobody likes metruniggers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:50:41 No.10671413 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671340
The Metru have those exact problems though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 01:03:19 No.10671435 Report

Quoted By: >>10671440 >>10671522 >>10672031

You know, it just came to me. Lhikan had two combining swords, so why not the rest of the Magnai having combining weapons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 01:05:55 No.10671440 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671435
I actually gave my old Naho MOC Kirop hooks so they could combine into a shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 01:30:28 No.10671474 Report

Quoted By:

>>10666593
He's so bad. They call him boss. He's a boss. Boss nigger.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 01:55:20 No.10671522 Report

Quoted By: >>10671528 >>10671536 >>10671537

>>10671435
That's my long-term plan. I posted the first 3 last thread, and am currently waiting on the parts for a Mangai of ice, and one of stone. I'm using Gresh's weapons for the Mangai of ice, and G2 Onua's claws for the one of stone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 01:56:24 No.10671528 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671522
of Earth*, not of stone, I'm retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 02:03:18 No.10671536 Report

Quoted By: >>10671541 >>10671542

>>10671522
I think the G2 Tahu swords would work better as Toa of Ice weapons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 02:03:19 No.10671537 Report

Quoted By: >>10671541

>>10671522
You should give the onua claws to ice instead of earth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 02:09:27 No.10671541 Report

Quoted By: >>10671606

>>10671536
They're similar enough in function to Lhikan's sword/board to where I wanted to play with something different. Admittedly Gresh's weapons are proportionally small.

>>10671537
I've considered it. I just had a difficult time finding something beefy enough as a replacement for the earth toa that still has a combine-feature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 02:09:37 No.10671542 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671536
Could more easily say Kopaka's shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 02:52:26 No.10671606 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671541
Could always take the g2 swords and use the inner hole to do something that sets it apart, like having something wrap around or whatever. Plus, isn't Lhiikan's team huge? A little overlap wouldn't hurt too bad imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 03:08:17 No.10671634 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669456
>The gods of Spherus Magna are eldritch creatures that curse autists with heightened creativity and bad foresight

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 03:28:21 No.10671672 Report

Quoted By: >>10671680 >>10671721 >>10673615 >>10674300 >>10674331

>>10670276
I tried. I really did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 03:31:40 No.10671680 Report

Quoted By: >>10671701 >>10676215

>>10671672
>Inika builds again
Yawn

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 03:49:43 No.10671701 Report

Quoted By: >>10671737 >>10671908 >>10674300 >>10674331

>>10671680
This more your speed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 03:53:36 No.10671710 Report

Quoted By:

>>10666596
Those Tahu swords are pretty cool desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 04:03:37 No.10671721 Report

Quoted By: >>10671850

>>10671672
Still mid but at least they look like natural evolutions of the Nuva. I think the best way to readapt the Phantoka/Mistika would be with a new torso type with that extra articulation mentioned before. Heck, maybe I'll try my hand at making custom parts for a change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 04:12:49 No.10671737 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671701
kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 04:21:28 No.10671754 Report

Quoted By: >>10671853

>>10671340
The Barraki are the one true time they actually experimented and deviated from this and it's part of why they're the last truely based line up in the set

Barraki are also fun spookymonth sets for me though so I'm fond of them anyways but regardless they did at least have different body structures

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 04:51:01 No.10671794 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671077
>the mata sets...
>have some variation to arms, not just between some groups of two, but at the same time also affecting the variety of piece types/molds in some sets
>weird hands / "hands" that don't look human, some of which look like they're just to wield tools/weapons at the end of machinery
>in one of the sets in the group, the torso allows a function that could be used to attack at (a bit of) range as opposed to melee (and a different set has a toa tool oriented toward defence), making them not quite "clones"
The reasons you prefer the Metru sets over the Mata sets are some of the reasons I prefer the Mata sets over the Metru sets, although both are good imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 05:36:17 No.10671850 Report

Quoted By: >>10671861

>>10671721
Is that why? Because their torsos aren't completely articulated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 05:39:27 No.10671853 Report

Quoted By: >>10671863

>>10671754
Has any Moc-er ever used the gear functionality of the bottom of the metru hips? It seems like the teeth at the bottom were never utilized in any set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 05:47:40 No.10671861 Report

Quoted By: >>10672344

>>10671850
It's because the limbs are fine in a vacuum but the torsos are a bit boring. Yeah, an evolution would be nice. You could try making some sort of rudimentary gearbox as a torso replacement instead if you wanted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 05:48:41 No.10671863 Report

Quoted By: >>10671870 >>10672188

>>10671853
It's extremely difficult to actually make it mesh and it wouldn't be able to move much anyway - it was basically designed as a purely cosmetic feature, similar to the gearing at the bottom of the mata trunk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 05:57:11 No.10671870 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671863
like pubes, but technic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 06:07:23 No.10671882 Report

Quoted By:

Here's your G3, bro.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 06:09:07 No.10671885 Report

Quoted By: >>10672065

The theme is saved by Cuckbricks, yet again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 06:24:24 No.10671908 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671701
this build sucks man, Idk why they all had to look like this towards the end. could have a whole bunch of cool mechanical parts inside

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 09:13:24 No.10672031 Report

Quoted By: >>10672051

>>10671435
Why would he? You already have the HAGAH for a team welding all the same weapons

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 09:51:37 No.10672051 Report

Quoted By:

>>10672031
The Hagah are not only a team, but a unit. A squad. Their spears and shields are symbolic to symbolize their guard status for their Makuta. Their armour is to make them stand out as the Elite of the Toa.
It's actually really cool. If you every played a Total War game, you'll know soldiers come in units. And the Hagah are a top tier Spearman unit with Tower shields.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 10:07:00 No.10672065 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671885
>mfw g3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 13:20:02 No.10672188 Report

Quoted By:

>>10671863
As a kid I liked to use mata torsos as limbs by attaching liftarms with gears in them to the bottom so that the gears would turn against the gears on the mata torso for support.

Always looked like shit but I didn't care, I thought it was cool that a bunch of gears were spinning when I bent the knees on my moc. I bet I could make something that looks a lot cleaner now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 15:39:48 No.10672344 Report

Quoted By: >>10672471 >>10674331

>>10671861
You mean like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 16:12:12 No.10672376 Report

Quoted By: >>10672699

are there any custom part packs for stud.io that include all the av-matoran/stars parts? I'm missing quite a few of the key parts myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 16:12:26 No.10672378 Report

Quoted By:

>>10666707
Definitely fits with those two Toa whose sets' designs were clearly intended to be Nidhiki and Dume but were turned into other characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 16:36:08 No.10672411 Report

Quoted By: >>10672453

>>10667885
Bionicle is a thelemic allegory actually, Aleister Crowley and stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 17:09:30 No.10672453 Report

Quoted By: >>10672696

>>10667885
>>10667885
>>10667886
>>10667942
>>10668464
>>10669322
>>10669415
>>10669430
>>10669732
>>10672411
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear%27s_Son_Tale

Why do trannies have to pretend they're a cosmically unique event?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 17:36:28 No.10672471 Report

Quoted By: >>10673260 >>10673363

>>10672344
Ayy, not bad!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 20:06:42 No.10672696 Report

Quoted By:

>>10672453
I love it when someone with expertise in something pops up with things I've never been exposed to. I'm interested to hear some of your opinions now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 20:08:27 No.10672699 Report

Quoted By: >>10672706

>>10672376
Vootcaboot's Studio resources
Ya welcome

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 20:13:58 No.10672704 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669312
Weird how biofags keep getting hung up on what pieces are used in a MOC instead of looking at the design like normal people do. My favourite is when they think two completely different MOCs "look the same" only because they both use a specific piece biofags have a hate boner for for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 20:14:59 No.10672706 Report

Quoted By:

>>10672699
thanks anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 21:37:43 No.10672856 Report

Quoted By: >>10672864

>>10668618
Cut parts aside, is putting a bar through an axle hole a legal connection?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 21:43:34 No.10672864 Report

Quoted By: >>10672869 >>10673266

>>10672856
Why wouldn't it be?
Other than that, that's a flextube, not a bar. It's legal to cut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 21:44:57 No.10672869 Report

Quoted By: >>10672980

>>10672864
>Why wouldn't it be?
Seems like it would be one of those situations where it fits securely, but puts stress on the parts in a way they're not designed for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 21:50:32 No.10672874 Report

Quoted By: >>10673271

if romance isn't canon why was vhisola yandere?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 22:01:55 No.10672904 Report

Quoted By:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmKMOvz_nVg&ab_channel=Unpixelled

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 22:36:52 No.10672977 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669678
Amazing
(I hope early 00's anime aesthetic makes a return tho)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 22:40:16 No.10672980 Report

Quoted By: >>10672986

>>10672869
It's been done in an official Bionicle set before

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 22:41:54 No.10672986 Report

Quoted By: >>10672995 >>10673057

>>10672980
Interesting. I was struggling to think of any official sets that did it, I guess that solves that mystery.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 22:47:11 No.10672995 Report

Quoted By: >>10673057

>>10672986
Now that I think about it, most Slizer sets as well as many of the Roboriders sets actually held system weapons. Some of those were made of softer plastic, like Jungle slizer's katana or Lava roborider's halberd. But some were hard plastic, like the pickaxes of Rock slizer. And those were all connected to Technic parts.
The real wacky part is this one. Pneumatic hose into a technic axle hole, and the other end is stretched over what is essentially a bar thickness part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 22:49:42 No.10672999 Report

Quoted By:

>>10670649
>the whole thing is basically just made from boring grey brick and slope pieces. It's not going to sell.
Soi Wars troons say otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 23:10:36 No.10673043 Report

Quoted By: >>10673146

>>10669312
>>exo-force robot arm fingers
This is based.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 23:18:19 No.10673057 Report

Quoted By:

>>10672986
>>10672995

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 23:53:29 No.10673122 Report

Quoted By: >>10673128 >>10673164 >>10673225

was toa norik not distributed very well in north america?
i see a lot more iruni's comparatively, bl seems to corroborate this but does anyone know for certain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 23:58:08 No.10673128 Report

Quoted By: >>10673288

>>10673122
Iruinu was out for much longer retail-wise as Iruini by itself was a standalone set.
Norik released later on afterwards only as a double package set with Iruini.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 00:11:08 No.10673146 Report

Quoted By: >>10673210 >>10673261 >>10673269

>>10673043
>he ruined an entire generation of moc builders
i love hydraxon and exo force robot arms for fingers can look cool, but they're so overused at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 00:20:25 No.10673164 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673122
I don't know but I have two Irunis and zero Noriks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 00:46:18 No.10673210 Report

Quoted By: >>10673775

>>10673146
let's be real hydraxon was supposed to be a new version of axonn, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 00:54:33 No.10673225 Report

Quoted By: >>10673288

>>10673122
Iruini was overproduced for the 50th anniversary of the Lego brick because he's gold. He was sold on his own, packed in extra with titans, and sold as a two pack with Norik.

If I recall correctly, Norik wasn't even available on his own in the US. He was ONLY in the two pack with Iruini.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 01:20:53 No.10673260 Report

Quoted By: >>10673307

>>10672471
Stop encouraging him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 01:21:30 No.10673261 Report

Quoted By: >>10673268

>>10673146
I genuinely thought that what he used on his face was a Kanohi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 01:25:00 No.10673266 Report

Quoted By:

>>10672864
That's real fuckin' shady legal ground and you know it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 01:26:17 No.10673268 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673261
It's a powerless Kiril and nobody can convince me otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 01:26:36 No.10673269 Report

Quoted By: >>10673277

>>10673146
desu articulated hands at that size always look like shit, there's just no clean and stable way to do it with legos. If you really want good fingers you have to go the hulk hands route like Axonn. Otherwise just pretend a socket is a hand like the rest of the gigachads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 01:27:37 No.10673271 Report

Quoted By:

>>10672874
Yurifags in bodybags desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 01:33:04 No.10673277 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673269
Toa Mata Nui?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 01:37:44 No.10673283 Report

Quoted By:

>10672704
Weird how chungusfurries think anyone asked for their opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 01:43:10 No.10673288 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673225
>>10673128
Can confirm, the double pack might've been Walmart-exclusive or something in the US too.
Thankfully, Norik only has one unique recolour (mask) so if you're trying to piece him together it's not mad expensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 01:55:35 No.10673307 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673260
Never.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 02:46:52 No.10673363 Report

Quoted By: >>10673366

>>10672471
You're fucking idiotic, and I say this as the guy who made this shit.
The less pieces you need to use, the better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 02:49:35 No.10673366 Report

Quoted By: >>10673377

>>10673363
I fundamentally agree, but the anon who actually made that (not you) used to struggle with even basic connections, and so making something that is an actual shape is a great improvement. I want to encourage him to keep learning. It's like watching a child grow up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 02:50:28 No.10673369 Report

Quoted By: >>10673381 >>10673414 >>10673425

I've always had a difficult time with hip articulation, even with the rebuilt matoran. I'm long out of practice building, and don't have all the parts to test the feasibility of this (the thin, single-axle waist annoys me). I don't have any of the custom parts packs, so this is desperately non-inika.

If any anon's interested in improving it, here: https://www.file.io/S7tf/download/G2jgnXEOwO4g

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 02:59:57 No.10673377 Report

Quoted By: >>10673380

>>10673366
No, it was me who made that. Jesus Christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 03:00:36 No.10673380 Report

Quoted By: >>10673425

>>10673377
Then just improve your model and accept that you're getting better :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 03:01:36 No.10673381 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673369
lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 03:20:21 No.10673414 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673369
holy fuck i thought we got rid of this retard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 03:27:13 No.10673425 Report

Quoted By: >>10673434 >>10673557 >>10673577 >>10674331

>>10673380
Man fuck that, I've been doing this shit
>>10673369
Do you see now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 03:36:38 No.10673434 Report

Quoted By: >>10673438

>>10673425
fire mocs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 03:39:11 No.10673438 Report

Quoted By: >>10673449

>>10673434
Ah shaddup, approval is not what I'm looking for

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 03:45:43 No.10673449 Report

Quoted By: >>10673459

>>10673438
You shut up, I don't give a damn what you think.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 03:56:55 No.10673459 Report

Quoted By: >>10673490 >>10673513 >>10673523 >>10673535 >>10673577 >>10674331 >>10674827

>>10673449
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:26:39 No.10673490 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673459
zamn...what could a bean...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:37:29 No.10673513 Report

Quoted By: >>10673519 >>10674556 >>10674827

>>10673459
That Inika build Mimic is hilarious, lmao
>"I'll disguise as one of them, and they won't see me infiltrating their shitty fanbase."
>"With this fanfiction sword I'll look like one of those new toa"

Meanwhile real Mimic
>Jacked
>Badass fire staff
>Using the mask of light as a hat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:40:49 No.10673519 Report

Quoted By: >>10673833

>>10673513
I mostly made him look like that to give off the idea that he has no unique skills of his own besides imitating what others can do

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:43:56 No.10673523 Report

Quoted By: >>10673529 >>10676355

>>10673459
Canon Lurker
>Unique creepy face with long creepy eyes
>The "biological" body is all red, while the robot arms are gray only
>Chubby
>Great proportions

Lurker Nuva:
>Unique head replaced with a generic mask
>Body is a mix of red and gray and even the robot arms have red bits that fuck the colour scheme
>Hero factory blade for the tail
>Okayish legs, waist as thin as his wrists, shoulders wide enough for 2 MOCs

What did you do to my beautiful creepy ass Lurker, anon..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:45:36 No.10673529 Report

Quoted By: >>10673540 >>10673558

>>10673523
The whole point of all this is to streamline the Dark Hunters and remove as much greeble as possible while keeping the idea intact

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:48:52 No.10673535 Report

Quoted By: >>10673541 >>10673554

>>10673459
Eliminator
>One of the scariest, largest and most intimidating dark hunters
>Reduced to the size of a mere Toa
You actually kept the design similar enough, only strangely swapping out all his purple leg parts for black ones and vice versa..?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:50:54 No.10673540 Report

Quoted By: >>10673544

>>10673529
>"greeble"
there's a difference between the gold being vomit and the dark hunters just using parts in creative ways without going overboard
with the exception of maybe Anubus and Ravanger (by default, because he was always kind of bad) everything you've "redone" has been a watered down, awkward and blander version of the original character at best and nigh unrecognizable garbage at worst.
no wonder all your shit is soulless; i wouldn't touch any of your crap with a ten foot pole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:51:17 No.10673541 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673535
I thought his original design had too many unncessecary pieces.
I also saw all the disk hands and decided to incorporate more Slizer features, which I'm also doing with Shadow Stealer to fit with his lore on a meta level

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:53:06 No.10673544 Report

Quoted By: >>10673547 >>10673557

>>10673540
There's so many unneeded parts in the original Dark Hunter designs, and some of the designs don't look like what they're supposed to be
Also, Anubis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:54:54 No.10673547 Report

Quoted By: >>10673557

>>10673544
The Shadowed One would be my guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:57:25 No.10673554 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673535
That vahki torso with the mata head is an incredible design for a head. Always been stellar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 04:59:40 No.10673557 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673544
>>10673547
I forgot his name; I actually meant Conjurer, who I'm assuming is the first guy in the initial image >>10673425 and is the only thing you built that doesn't look like a straight downgrade of the original besides Ravanger (because he sucked)

Also while some of the original designs had some 'unneeded parts' a lot of them weren't just greebleshit, and actually contributed to the design and unique look of all of them.
Like sure, Lurker as an example has some lego studs and bits tacked onto his body and chest, but his legs and torso overall are still very unique and his face is a very cool and memorably stand out design that's simple enough to not be hard to replicate but detailed enough to be really cool and effective.
Your version just looks like a lanky piece of shit with cartoonishly wide shoulders and freakazoid hands.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:02:06 No.10673558 Report

Quoted By: >>10673560 >>10673566 >>10673571 >>10673577 >>10673651 >>10673679

>>10673529
The Dark Hunters were mostly made by kids, and look still better than most what the community comes up with now.
>Greeble
Things like >>10666596 is Greeble. Lots and lots of small parts packed onto a much too small creation, making it look overkill.
The real Dark Hunters:
>Like combiners
>Using 2001-2005 parts, making them look very consistent
>Unique color schemes
>Creative builds
You essentially butcher some of them.
>Charger lost his glorious red head and is some kinda Phantoka version of himself now, Gray+Red? Why?
>Conjurer lost his signature spiky chest and has way too much silver. Only his hands, feet and crest are supposed to be silver, the rest is in shades of brown and burnt orange
>Eliminator became a midget with swapped colours
>Lurker turned into a Toa of Fire for some reason
>Mimic uses an Ignika build
>Tyrant is blue?!
And thats just some of them. I see Darkness and Gladiator and the Shadowed One of course, but many are even unrecognizable.
I don't mind people making MOCs at all, but please don't turn my Dark Hunters into Hero Factory villains.
>Atleast our boy Ancient is safe in death from this heresy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:03:19 No.10673560 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673558
Ancient didn't deserve to die
Man was too cool

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:06:00 No.10673562 Report

Quoted By:

>I will now betray you... Because of how loyal you have been.
10,000,000,000 iq TSO

Anonymous !!SMatHMv1E7f

Anonymous !!SMatHMv1E7f Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:08:00 No.10673566 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673558
>The Dark Hunters were mostly made by kids, and look still better than most what the community comes up with now.

Truer words have never been spoken. A few of them are shitty and/or got mangled, but overall fun aesthetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:09:44 No.10673571 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673558
That's not Tyrant, it's Amphibax

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:15:53 No.10673577 Report

Quoted By: >>10673578 >>10673589

>>10673558
>Charger didn't look enough like a Kane-Ra, so I opted to make him look more like one
>I don't see a spiky chest, I see one with blades. I also decided it was uneeded
And I'm also making Ancient, but I cannot for the life of me figure out his fucking legs. Also take a gander at the better version of Shadow Stealer.
But just so we're clear, from left to right
>>10673425
>Conjurer
>Dweller
>Amphibax
>Airwatcher
>Darkness
>Charger
>Gatherer
>Ravager
>>10673459
>Mimic (I recently gave him a Metru Nui torso)
>Lurker
>TSO
>Gladiator
>Firedracax
>Eliminator
>Kraata Kal
>Devastator

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:16:55 No.10673578 Report

Quoted By: >>10673580 >>10673582 >>10673591 >>10673597 >>10673605 >>10673613 >>10674256 >>10674331

>>10673577
Ah shit, why do I always do that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:19:01 No.10673580 Report

Quoted By: >>10673583

>>10673578
>Also take a gander at the better version of Shadow Stealer.
I'm going to kill you
And then I'm going to kill you again

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:21:44 No.10673582 Report

Quoted By: >>10673593

>>10673578
fuck me you're bad at this
not even close

thankfully, you cannot overwrite the actual, canon, good version of him, which was probably also made by a child half your age
Maybe just make your own shit instead of trying to bastardize everyone else's

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:21:46 No.10673583 Report

Quoted By: >>10673592

>>10673580
I made him look more like a Slizer, and also much more suited to fight the Shadowed One, which is what he's supposed to do
The original was too dinky and disproportionate

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:25:20 No.10673589 Report

Quoted By: >>10673607 >>10683194

>>10673577
>Eliminator possesses great speed and agility.
>He also has the natural ability to attract shadows to his body, making him nearly impossible to see in low-light conditions.
>He can carry up to four Kanoka on his back-mounted launchers.
>He can also harness their power, unleashing the resulting energy in Lightning-like blasts from his razor-sharp claws.
>Razor sharp claws.
>Claws.
Where are his claws, revamp anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:26:21 No.10673591 Report

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>>10673578
Slizers ruined the Bionicle community.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:27:12 No.10673592 Report

Quoted By: >>10673594 >>10673596

>>10673583
he was never supposed to the fight the shadowed one, at least not from anything i remember about him
he was a former member of the Hand who got bitter when he was replaced and hired by the hunters, then completed a mission speculated to take years in just days and then started making his way back while fighting toa and other hunters
if anything it's implied they were hired by the Makuta
the original looks weird, sure, but yours is both completely unrecognizable as him in any way and just looks like some guy slapped a slizer together while making a sandwich and called it a day. I don't think you could've been lazier if you tried.
You couldn't even be assed to give him his horns or tail.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:27:48 No.10673593 Report

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>>10673582
Shadow Stealer was an absolute chad and looked extremely unique.
He's like an assassin version of Good Guy, but is actually present in the lore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:29:29 No.10673594 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673592
>Able to Teleport
>Still choses to walk instead, because he prefers a challenge
He's even more badass than any Toa Mata

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:33:23 No.10673596 Report

Quoted By: >>10673600 >>10673603

>>10673592
Read his lore.
Now do you get it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:35:20 No.10673597 Report

Quoted By: >>10673604

>>10673578
70% of your revamps use parts from 2006 and after
But one of them is straight up a Slizer with parts from before 2001.
Where is the consistency?! Fucking hell..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:38:00 No.10673600 Report

Quoted By: >>10673606

>>10673596
Nigga, what the fuck are you on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:41:22 No.10673603 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673596
I get that you’re a pretentious piece of shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:41:40 No.10673604 Report

Quoted By: >>10673644

>>10673597
Sorry for not using more pre-2006 parts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:42:50 No.10673605 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673578
I like the shoulders :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:42:54 No.10673606 Report

Quoted By: >>10673608

>>10673600
He was a hero before the Toa existed.
What came before Bionicle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:44:04 No.10673607 Report

Quoted By: >>10673636 >>10673642

>>10673589
He has Slizer disk arms and disks, so I opted to make him more Slizer-like. What's hard to understand about that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:44:32 No.10673608 Report

Quoted By: >>10673610 >>10673612

>>10673606
Roboriders you fuckin faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:44:57 No.10673610 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673608
Oh, I should use more rorobrider parts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:46:01 No.10673612 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673608
I'm using Slizer because it's cooler than Roborider

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:46:12 No.10673613 Report

Quoted By: >>10673615

>>10673578
Your “builds” are giving me brain damage anon, I don’t want to fathom what you would do to stuff like rahi or toa with your garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:47:08 No.10673615 Report

Quoted By: >>10673617

>>10673613
I already remade the Toa Mata here
>>10671672

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:47:55 No.10673617 Report

Quoted By: >>10673620

>>10673615
Faker

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 05:51:33 No.10673620 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673617
Faker? I think you're the fake around here.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:03:41 No.10673636 Report

Quoted By: >>10673647 >>10674169

>>10673607
You ignore the lore. He has claws. He uses "slizer arms" because they can hold Kanoka disks.
I´m really having a hard time following your logic, you seem to just take existing characters and think you can improve their established designs.
Clearly you are creative, and I like that about you, but you should instead make original creations. I am playing around with (IRL) designs for a Dark Hunter MOC of Ancient's/Conjurer's/Tyrant's species. It's fun to make Dark Hunters, I totally agree!

...Or you just enjoy pissing people off by butchering the lore. That'd be fair too.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:06:20 No.10673642 Report

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>>10673607
It looks stupid, smaller and worse than the real Eliminator. Why do you waste time making things smaller, worse and more stupid?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:08:10 No.10673644 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673604
Apology not accepted. You are a heretic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:11:25 No.10673647 Report

Quoted By: >>10673653

>>10673636
It’s about taking what should be focused on and focusing on it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:17:29 No.10673651 Report

Quoted By: >>10673658 >>10673661 >>10673667

>>10673558
>Using 2001-2005 parts, making them look very consistent
I feel like a lot of the winners were basically just 90% bohrok or rahkshi parts like in the OP

not much from 2001 like parts from rahi, mctoran, etc

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:18:37 No.10673653 Report

Quoted By: >>10674138

>>10673647
Try focusing on the fact that kids from 17 years ago were better builders than you are now.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:22:15 No.10673658 Report

Quoted By: >>10673660 >>10673667 >>10674169

>>10673651
They used what parts they had available. Rahkshi, Bohrok, Toa, those were the sets almost everyone had at hand.
Rahi used alot of beams, and many submission builds also had beams.
>Conjurer
>Uses angled beams to form the main shape of his torso
>Uses Gukko bird wings for his armor
I really like his build and his lore.
The species TSO, Ancient, Conjurer and Tyrant belong to are so interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:23:21 No.10673660 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673658
Edit: For the first time I notice those chest blades are being bent, lmao
Thats not healthy..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:24:43 No.10673661 Report

Quoted By: >>10673663

>>10673651
That thing is sick. What is it called?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:26:38 No.10673663 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673661
Spiny Stone Ape iirc

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:31:24 No.10673667 Report

Quoted By: >>10673682 >>10673756

>>10673651
>>10673658
Why do brown mocs always look good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:49:01 No.10673679 Report

Quoted By: >>10673683 >>10673687 >>10673690 >>10673692 >>10673695

>>10673558
I thought the hole on the Rahkshii's head was supposed to be Ancient's eye?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:53:35 No.10673682 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673667
Tunnel Stalker

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:54:36 No.10673683 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673679
Nope, lmao
The species of TSO, Ancient, Conjurer and Tyrant are lizard people with claws and tails.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 06:59:06 No.10673687 Report

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>>10673679
Buff Lizard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 07:00:08 No.10673690 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673679
Hunchback Lizard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 07:01:11 No.10673692 Report

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>>10673679
Faker Wizard Lizard (tail chopped off by TSO)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 07:02:12 No.10673695 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673679
Boss Lizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 07:16:10 No.10673707 Report

Quoted By:

>>10669856
they're really short, you can finished like 3 of them in one day
plus a lot of them are written surprisingly well

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 07:19:32 No.10673711 Report

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imagine her dirty talking in your ear while giving you a handjob

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 08:42:23 No.10673755 Report

Quoted By: >>10673769

We all know people here don’t like lego system stuff being used in bionicle mocs, but what about using bionicle stuff (including limbs and stuff) to make weird ships in combo with system for “system” figures?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 08:43:24 No.10673756 Report

Quoted By: >>10673762

>>10673667
Because brown is an awesome colour. Fuck Lego and those kids that didn't buy brown sets so we get stuck with keetorange, orange, and yellow sets for the rest of the line

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 08:56:27 No.10673762 Report

Quoted By: >>10673824 >>10673844

>>10673756
One thing I never understood was why Lego choose stone as the sixth element. It overlaps with Earth and they could've used something like plant life or lightning instead, two more commonly used elements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 09:08:39 No.10673769 Report

Quoted By: >>10673787

>>10673755
The reason we generally don't like system is just because bionicle and system typically clash aesthetically; interesting parts usage is great. And, by mentioning that, I also answer the other half of your post: Yes, that sounds totally reasonable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 09:19:09 No.10673775 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673210
Axonn > Hydraxon

>Hydrated Axonn (with 1 less 'n')

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 09:40:35 No.10673787 Report

Quoted By: >>10673789

>>10673769
Good, because I wanna do some really weird shit for some alien ships, nearly eldrich for system minifigures point of view with using stuff like star fishes and of course the bionicle pieces for parts of the ships, with using more bizarre type minifigures such as those one piece statue ones for most of the aliens, weirdness is one of the things I wanna go for with them and using other building systems of lego a bit (Bionicle and system being the main ones but sprinkles of other ones or using lamp posts for cannons for examples) is the general idea, Got the color scheme of blue and white (but no stapled down version aka most blues and whites allowed) as the one I wanna go for, thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 09:45:46 No.10673789 Report

Quoted By: >>10673801

>>10673787
Sounds neat. I think despite using bionicle parts the lego general is probably the better place to discuss it though, because many anons here are like me in the sense that we don't really care too much about building ships or whatever else with lego. Not sure how annoyed /lg/ gets with mentions of bonk nowadays but couldn't hurt to post there and ask for their feedback too at the very least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 09:53:46 No.10673800 Report

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>The Visorak courier did not dare turn around. It knew to whom that voice belonged. Every member of the horde knew, and feared, Roodaka, and with good reason. But in Sidorak’s eyes, she was a figure to be trusted and coveted.
>"My queen,” he said, reverence in his voice.
Not really a fan of the way the movies portrayed Sidorak. The previous books made no attempt at hiding the fact that Roodaka was the one that's truly in charge, sure, but Sidorak was portrayed as ruthless and violent, a conquerer who, while smitten with Roodaka, still had his own plans to free Makuta and earn his favour too. But the movie just went with him being a simp and ran with it.
Also sort of wish we got more info on the original direction the story was going. The Toa just managed to create the Tower of Toa and were agonising over the fact that Lhikan might have chosen the wrong Matoran (how any of them could believe Akhmou, Ehrye, Vhisola or Nuhrii would have been better Toa is beyond me). There was even an unfinished script about the team going to wake up Dume for help.
Also sort of pissed the Tahtorak and Krahka Vs Zivon fight will never be animated. That scene was fucking awesome, and Onewa bonding with Krahka was nice

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 09:54:55 No.10673801 Report

Quoted By: >>10674140

>>10673789
Already have done a fair bit, known as minerfag there, but being here to discuss the more exotic type building stuff or parts usage for the aliens vs the system stuff I discuss (the miners) there mainly is likely the best work, I have experience in building with bionicle a bit, built a giant arm cannon out of a ton of it before accidentally dropping it on the basement floor where it sadly shattered, wished I had a pic still. I am pretty sure blue and white is the best for a color scheme for the type of theme I am going for due to the assortment of technic, system and bionicle parts in it with stuff like some colors such as light blue or sand blue being sadly rarer but still accessable, basically if it’s blue or white it should be accessable is my mindset here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:07:46 No.10673824 Report

Quoted By: >>10673829 >>10673841 >>10673844

>>10673762
No one's with me on this but I always thought it was dumber how Ice and Water are seperate elements.

Like yeah the distinction between Earth and Stone is kind of arbitrary and not really well established, but Ice is just cold Water. And it's not like they ever really stress the concept of energy or temperature manipulation it's more like they just treat Ice as a seperate element.

If I could go back to jumble up the 6 basic elements I'd just roll Ice in Water (maybe temperature control aspects could go to Fire, I guess it'd be interesting to have a fire guy that can also chill things if he wanted) and then use the white for Air and green for like Nature or Life or something as the new 6th element.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:15:45 No.10673829 Report

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>>10673824
Different anon here. I understand your complaint, but I went about coping with it differently. I have a WHOLE headcanon about how the Bionicle setting works that involves what are basically alternative fundamental particles arranged in tandem with normal ones - and each of the new particles are one of the established elements (in some capacity.) The crash course 101 is the great beings invented phlogiston and other elemental equivalents, it's something that self-arranges naturally (kind of like strange matter), and they developed more and different varied types when they built the GSR (why the MU has more elements than Bara Magna.)

Bonus: Various different objects have different numbers of each of these fundamental elemental particles and they account for (or rather form these shapes as a result of) the properties of an object in the normal sense, but in further and more complex arrangements they explain the elemental powers, mask powers, kanoka disks, makuta powers, etc etc etc all throughout the MU (again, it also explains why there are more events like this in the MU and fewer (more concentrated) ones on Bara Magna.)

I should really write it all down one of these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:19:09 No.10673833 Report

Quoted By: >>10673839 >>10673858 >>10674449

>>10673519
Sort of a self-MOC, then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:19:45 No.10673835 Report

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A Toa of Fire with an elemental mask of Ice is actually a good idea now that I think of it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:21:47 No.10673839 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673833

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:27:58 No.10673841 Report

Quoted By: >>10673956

>>10673824
They were originally going to make four elements, but Lego said they had six plastic moulds so Kopaka and Pohatu were born

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:32:16 No.10673844 Report

Quoted By: >>10673847 >>10673850 >>10673865 >>10673871 >>10673886 >>10674325

>>10673824
>>10673762
Yeah, and fire and ice are redundant too, why not just have a toa of stone, toa of water, toa of air, amd toa of temperature variance?
No, better idea, toa of solids, toa of liquids, toa of gas, and toa of plasma.
No, no, that's still way too redunant, what we REALLY should have had is a toa of gravity, toa of electromagnetism, toa of strong nuclear force, and toa of weak nuclear force.

It's a thematic distinction, dumbasses. Earth = underground mole people, stone = desert/cliff sandniggers/brazilians. Same for ice/water. Splitting hairs over how it ackchually isn't scientifically distinct is almost as cringe as people who try to shoehorn Greg's fanfiction special snowflake elements into the original lineup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:33:23 No.10673847 Report

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>>10673844
>toa of gravity, toa of electromagnetism, toa of strong nuclear force, and toa of weak nuclear force.

sounds kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:35:21 No.10673850 Report

Quoted By: >>10673892

>>10673844
>as people who try to shoehorn Greg's fanfiction special snowflake elements into the original lineup.
fuck you having more options isn't a bad thing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:41:39 No.10673858 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673833

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:47:18 No.10673865 Report

Quoted By: >>10673870

>>10673844
Agreed.
I always saw Stone and Air as the niggers of the Matoran element types.
Stone types have low intelligence, strong and are good for physical labour. Like niggers.
Air types are lazy, love to entertain and speak like retards. Also niggers.
Earth types, while literally black (armored) are the least similar to niggers and are much more like dwarves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:53:10 No.10673870 Report

Quoted By: >>10673987

>>10673865
Well the Air types are certainly more the comical shucking 'n' jiving minstrel niggers (and jungle bunnies to boot) than the violent larcenous rape-apes we would typically think of, but yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 10:54:40 No.10673871 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673844
For me it's Toa of Yes and Toa of No

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:12:59 No.10673886 Report

Quoted By: >>10673890 >>10673892

>>10673844
Should have stayed with the original 6 along with Shadow and light. Maybe Lightning and plant life too but that's as far as it should've gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:14:08 No.10673890 Report

Quoted By: >>10673891 >>10673892

>>10673886
Iron is a baller element.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:16:40 No.10673891 Report

Quoted By: >>10674227

>>10673890
Nah that shit is way too overpowered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:17:29 No.10673892 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673890
>>10673886
>>10673850
Well I meant in the context of the original team and the others who used the same 6 "core" elements, I couldn't really give a shit about the donut steel snowflake elements one way or the other everywhere else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:17:41 No.10673893 Report

Quoted By: >>10673894

It would have been funny if they decided to make it a rule so each new character was a new elemental type. By like the 5th toa team they'd be scraping the bottom of the barrel and coming up with shit like the Toa of Oxidization and the Toa of Silica because all the good shit was already taken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:18:31 No.10673894 Report

Quoted By: >>10673904 >>10673931

>>10673893
>By like the 5th toa team
do we even have enough waves for that to make sense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:19:35 No.10673896 Report

Quoted By: >>10673906 >>10673911

It's really weird seeing the subgenerational disparities. Like, we have 01-03 purists now. Fr? I don't mind at all but it's baffling to me, my favorite part about Bionicle was the fact that it's a massive epic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:29:18 No.10673904 Report

Quoted By: >>10673929

>>10673894
>Mata
>Metru
>Inika
>Glatorian
>Legends
Yeah, we had just enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:30:29 No.10673906 Report

Quoted By: >>10673909

>>10673896
Lots of people were interested in the mystical island setting and lost interest once it became a lot more sci-fi. As evidenced by every single fangane being set on Mata Nui

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:32:20 No.10673909 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673906
I don't mind the change in settings I just think a lot of the later sets are really boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:33:11 No.10673911 Report

Quoted By: >>10673928

>>10673896
A massive epic with plot holes, Retcons, And shit writing that nearly plagued the whole story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:50:49 No.10673928 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673911
That is literally every large story

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:51:56 No.10673929 Report

Quoted By: >>10673943

>>10673904
Glatorian and Glatorian Legends aren't toa teams though?!?! I mean I get it if you're saying "They could have introduced this concept and used it and either applied it to the Glatorian and beyond or replaced them" but it doesn't fit into the initial prompt is all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 11:52:41 No.10673931 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673894
If you count the Hagah and Mangai that got sets (in some form at least) there's basically 4.5 toa teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 12:01:47 No.10673943 Report

Quoted By: >>10674134

>>10673929
Yeah, but the Glatorians still got elemental powers by the end so I just lumped them in together out of convenience. They're still new canister sets, after all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 12:17:19 No.10673956 Report

Quoted By: >>10673962

>>10673841
Source?

Stone & Should should have been Lightning & Gravity (funnily enough, Kopaka is shown to freeze an avalanche)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 12:22:23 No.10673960 Report

Quoted By: >>10674840

Prospector Sasu finds a rare lightstone Fikou!
(Posted these guys before, but this is the final version of my Fikou.(

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 12:24:52 No.10673962 Report

Quoted By: >>10673964

>>10673956
https://www.maskofdestiny.com/news/the-original-role-of-the-ruru-matatu
>According to Alastair Swinnerton, who wrote the BIONICLE story bibles of the early years, his initial story bible contained four Toa: Tahu (fire), Lewa (air), Gali (water) and Onua (earth). He further notes that he assigned these names after seeing prototype names of “Hook”, “Claw”, etc. He then further stated that when he presented the concept to LEGO, they asked for two more heroes, as they had six differently-coloured products, thus adding Kopaka (ice) and Pohatu (stone).
It's on page 13, under the Blade & Kick section. It also has another source that links directly to Alastair's blog where he talks about it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 12:28:41 No.10673964 Report

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>>10673962
Thanks anon

Chapta: GSM 0H

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 12:39:09 No.10673973 Report

Quoted By:

Fikou anon here again, wanted to pose a scene of when the Toa Hagah besieged the Brotherhood Fortress.
Toa Iruini fighting a stage 4 Rahkshi of Fear!
I wonder what might have been Iruini's worst fears on this day..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 12:59:57 No.10673987 Report

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>>10673870
Skakdi..
>Yo yo!
What did lego mean by that?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 13:09:06 No.10673995 Report

Quoted By: >>10678442 >>10679472

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBr8lFCgpQ8

Welcome to Metru-Nui, where might makes right, and you can take pride in the elite!

Obedience is happiness.

Remember that a busy Matoran is a happy Matoran. Work quick! Work good!

For peace and the law.

Here, our Vahki Enforcers loyally serve and protect Turaga Dume.

Turaga Dume sees all.

Thoughts can be dangerous, so trust in Turaga Dume.

Surrender or run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 15:32:29 No.10674134 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673943
Only three Glatorian got elemental powers out of both waves, dingle. Then you consider that the Skrall and Vorox weren't even characters, just army builders. Stop talkin out your ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 15:35:48 No.10674138 Report

Quoted By: >>10674215

>>10673653
Uh huh, now post the actual Devastator

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 15:38:35 No.10674140 Report

Quoted By: >>10674648

>>10673801
Anon, please don't take this the wrong way, but you're getting too bogged down in the conceptual part of the process. I would know, I do it frequently with my ideas and won't want to share anything until I'm 100% confident with the results. Problem is, that might never happen if you keep holding off. If you're worried about someone here ripping off your photos, make some sociap media, but for the love of god, you gotta start actually building and taking pics to keep the gears turning. You keep just talking about it and you will never get these projects done.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 16:02:09 No.10674169 Report

Quoted By: >>10674197 >>10674211 >>10674216 >>10674255 >>10674311 >>10674331 >>10674349 >>10674491

>>10673658
That's what I did though
>>10673636
When I try to be original we get horseshit like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 16:29:53 No.10674197 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674169
NTA but I prefer this over whatever it is you decided to do with Mimic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 16:39:45 No.10674211 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674169
LMAO WTF

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 16:43:58 No.10674215 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674138

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 16:44:58 No.10674216 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674169
Keetongu Stars? Wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 16:51:33 No.10674227 Report

Quoted By:

>>10673891
Which is why there was a Toa of Iron/magnetism holocaust

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 17:18:25 No.10674253 Report

Quoted By: >>10674496

I wish there were a rhotuka spinner rod that ended in an axle instead of the disk connector, it would be fun as hell to make some kind of technic action that's activated by a ripcord.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 17:18:52 No.10674255 Report

Quoted By: >>10674322

>>10674169
this is still better than you butchering the dark hunters

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 17:19:24 No.10674256 Report

Quoted By: >>10674299 >>10674331

>>10673578
I mean, it's better than my first attempt at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 17:50:13 No.10674299 Report

Quoted By: >>10674361

>>10674256
Why the Greebling? He has more parts than the original. Why all those unnecessary parts? I thought you want to streamline them?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 17:51:20 No.10674300 Report

Quoted By: >>10674322 >>10674361

>>10671672
>>10671701
Your builds are lanky and low effort. Chinese bootlegs have more thought put into them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 17:55:19 No.10674305 Report

Quoted By: >>10674353 >>10674420 >>10676150 >>10676156

Stud.io is a curse. It's literally giving people the possibility to make anything they want to imagine, and it's actually terrible. Horrible even.
>Let's revamp the tOa maTa
>Let's revamp le dargk hungderss
>Check out those custom fanfiction masks that don't fit into the lore at all
The only merciful thought is that none of this will ever see the light of day, nor ever be considered canon.
Even painting masks is way less cringe than this stud.io crap.
Pic fucking related, atleast this is something productive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 17:58:59 No.10674311 Report

Quoted By: >>10674416

>>10674169
>When I try to be original we get horseshit like this
Nigger, why are you such a dumb fuck defeatist? This is a hundred times better than your retarded "remakes."

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 18:03:58 No.10674322 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674300
>>10674255
Mata Nui shows his will via the digits..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 18:04:50 No.10674325 Report

Quoted By: >>10674333

>>10673844
>toa of temperature variance
Stupidest fucking shit I've ever heard. You people are ovwrthinking this shit so fucking much.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 18:08:07 No.10674331 Report

Quoted By: >>10676158

>>10674256
>>10674169
>>10673578
>>10673459
>>10673425
>>10672344
>>10671701
>>10671672

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 18:09:28 No.10674333 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674325
He was being sarcastic, Kohlii-head. LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 18:17:37 No.10674349 Report

Quoted By: >>10674361

>>10674169
If this is a original character and not a TSO remake, this is actually good. Just add some spikes and a tail and he's good to hunt.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 18:20:21 No.10674353 Report

Quoted By: >>10674359

>>10674305
I disagree regarding masks. Heresy is fucking lazy and just ruining existing parts. Learn to model and 3d print kanohi if you want recolors. However, I do agree with the plague of Studio in that vein. Using real pieces means having a restricted parts library and having to think outside of the box within the limits given to you to make something. Then you factor in gravity and tolerances. There's more brainpower going into making something irl than in Studio. But what if you just can't afford real Bionicle? I mean, I guess, sure, but that's not being creative. It's the equivalent to making a custom character in a video game and showing everyone like you did something of merit. This is even more offensive when you use custom parts modelled by other community members for your digital builds. You didn't go into Blender and make it yourself, you just borrowed someone else's hard work to show of whatever half baked idea you cooked up without factoring physics or color limitations, and the end result is just embarrassing to look at. I do not like Studio makers like this at all. They have no real grasp of what building is like. I hold more respect for people branching out with makihn printed parts, resin casts, even syatem based builds, because they're even in the smallest capacity, acting like artisans. Making something. Studio builders that just spam whatsver wherever with no care are, again, like people dicking around in a Soul Caliber or Elden ring character creator and acting like they accomplished something. Sure, there's novelty in something like that, but it will forever be inferior to anything produced irl, whether with official pieces or custom parts. Honestly just so goddamn tired of the Studio spam at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 18:23:33 No.10674359 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674353
And even if you buy 3d printed parts modelled by someone else, you yourself need to learn how to paint to use said part in the way you want, which is much more involved than simply clicking the mouse button twice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 18:24:35 No.10674361 Report

Quoted By: >>10674449 >>10674459

>>10674299
Like I said, it's shit
>>10674349
He's not a DH
>>10674300
The sleeker the better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 18:54:50 No.10674416 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674311
Because it's not cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 18:56:02 No.10674420 Report

Quoted By: >>10674446 >>10674454 >>10674457

>>10674305
I use custom parts when I reimagine the DH because it makes them feel more like actual sets. Like, super important new guys didn't have reused parts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 19:13:19 No.10674446 Report

Quoted By: >>10674665

>>10674420
No you don't, you just make digital figures that are worse than the originals. Something that is made with a few clicks of a button and gone with a single one.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 19:16:33 No.10674449 Report

Quoted By: >>10674450 >>10674532 >>10674556

>>10674361
Your definition of "sleek" has the same meaning as "unfinished" and "uninspired"
>>10673833 anon was right.
Your Nu-Mimic is your selfmoc.
>No unique skills
>Besides imitating what others can do (poorly)
Start making your own mocs, whenever you try to make existing sets "sleeker" you disrespect them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 19:17:46 No.10674450 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674449
Pic related is "sleek". It has proportions, form and compliments the biomechanical spirit of Bionicle.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 19:21:17 No.10674454 Report

Quoted By: >>10674457

>>10674420
Stupid Skakdi nigger, no one cares about them looking like "official sets". The whole point of the Dark Hunters was that fans were allowed to make them. Many of them actually look like official Titan or Combiner sets of that time, like Guardian, Conjurer, Ancient ect.

They did the fucking same for Rahi. Pic related.
It's Tahtorak. Fanmade. Not an official set. Guess where it ended up?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 19:23:42 No.10674457 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674420
>>10674454
..right here. In the comics. These fanmade sets are canonized. There's literally no point in making "revamps" that look like ass, when there's real, physical, lore-accurate instructions for them.
Make your original characters, if you want set-accuracy. There's lots of established builds.
>Metru-Matorans, Mahri-Matorans, Voya-Matorans
>Toa Ignika, Metru, Mata builds
Pick your build, make your selfmocs. Like every other fucking normal fan, lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 19:25:36 No.10674459 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674361
>The sleeker the better
They're about as sleek as an abandoned car with bullet holes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 19:49:31 No.10674491 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674169
sick rhotuka launcher with a loose peg

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 19:51:25 No.10674496 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674253
that's a based idea. At least you could get something similar with pieces like pic related, even if it needs to be constrained instead of free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:16:20 No.10674532 Report

Quoted By: >>10674541 >>10674556

>>10674449
Original Mimic was too distinct for what he was supposed to be

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:19:40 No.10674541 Report

Quoted By: >>10674548 >>10674556

>>10674532
Original thoughts are too distinct for your brain to handle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:22:03 No.10674548 Report

Quoted By: >>10674555 >>10674558 >>10674598 >>10674602

>>10674541
>Whole thing is that he can mimic what everyone else does physically
>Has an extremely greebled and armored design
Giving him a super skinny and unarmored look works in his favor because it makes him look like a blank template who can do anything

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:27:16 No.10674555 Report

Quoted By: >>10674562

>>10674548
And Brutakka is like a chimpmunk because he can store sooo many nuts in those wide Olmakh cheeks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:27:24 No.10674556 Report

Quoted By: >>10674561 >>10674572 >>10674578

>>10674449
>>10673513
>>10674541
>>10674532
Mimic COULD be done a bit smaller and less buff for a new build, but perhaps leaning into his weird color scheme since in retrospect it looks like he’s a toa of iron, his unique head being kept or turned into something that resembles his species is also needed I feel, basically giving him a less standout “I’M A BAD GUY” color pallet would actually help him blend in/be shown as an actual toa, should the mask face thing still be gold? Maybe but still I feel keeping his “Just different species” aesthetic in should be done for a more custom version of him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:27:59 No.10674558 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674548
But he has a unique ability that's different than the rest of his species, which looks like he does otherwise. It makes more sense for someone to look normal and have an ability than for an entire race to look bizarrely empty only for one guy to get an ability that thematically fits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:28:16 No.10674561 Report

Quoted By: >>10674576

>>10674556
That’s not what Mimic does. He’s not a Toa imitator, he can just mimic what people do

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:28:49 No.10674562 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674555
Holy based, look at my digits..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:32:48 No.10674572 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674556
The guy has literally an unique head design that is exclusive to Mimic's species.
What else do you fucking want, lmao
He's a finished, polished build. Leave the poor guy alone, he just wants to find his GF and not deal with you losers.
And in case you can't see it:
>"Mask" = Helmet
>"Gear" = teeth/mouth (probably rotating, or like a snail's mouth)
>Obvious eyes are the eyes
He looks like a snail, how much more fucking unique do you want him to be? Oh my Mata Nui..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:33:55 No.10674576 Report

Quoted By: >>10674582 >>10674717

>>10674561
Still, I am just saying he would fit better with the mimic theme if he had an actual toa color scheme for the most part instead of dark red and black, or showing off he was once a toa

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:34:33 No.10674578 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674556
And Mimic is tall, buff, with thick legs and has alot of black in his armor. Deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:35:34 No.10674582 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674576
Wtf, you know nothing. Mimic was never a Toa.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:43:54 No.10674598 Report

Quoted By: >>10674601

>>10674548
>Has an extremely greebled and armored design
Thats what he looks like. His species is likely this shape, and he's armored because it protects his physical form.
It's possible to have species abilities and be in good shape and armored at the same time.
Shocking innit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:45:35 No.10674601 Report

Quoted By: >>10674604 >>10674606

>>10674598
Fine.
You want an armored Mimic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:46:27 No.10674602 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674548
And greebing wasn't a thing back when Mimic was designed.
It's something modern MOCists do. It means to add so many parts that the creation stops looking like it's from this universe.
Ironically, you do the same thing, but the reverse. You add such few, cheap and poorly chosen parts that your "revamps" look barely like anything resembling the true spirit of Bionicle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:48:12 No.10674604 Report

Quoted By: >>10674679

>>10674601
I might build him someday, just purely as a result of this conversation. His parts aren't insanely expensive.
But you probably mean a cuck.io version.
Please no, just leave the Hunters alone, lmao. Please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:49:41 No.10674606 Report

Quoted By: >>10674661 >>10674679

>>10674601
Just make some custom characters or something, look at stuff kids designed and actually take insperation from it to make interesting stuff

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 20:55:33 No.10674614 Report

Quoted By:

"Mess with the best.."
"..you'll die like the rest."
-The Shadowed One (probably) sometime after he found out about Nidhiki and Krekka's deaths.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:14:37 No.10674648 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674140
Understandable, just getting some basic sketches out should be a good idea for both the miners and aliens ships, like the way the actual designers did it, I have done actual minifigures for some of the miners and I have a lot of bionicle parts in the basement, the biggest problem is keeping the house clean and such

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:19:38 No.10674661 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674606
You fucking kidding me? I looked at the shit they made, it reminded me of what I made back in the day, and it disgusted me. So many joints.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:21:10 No.10674665 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674446
Hey, at least I'm not like an AI "artist" who acts like they can sell their shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:26:12 No.10674679 Report

Quoted By: >>10674692 >>10674716 >>10674719 >>10674722 >>10674747 >>10674751 >>10674760

>>10674604
>>10674606
Here's your fucking armored Mimic. This sucks compared to my first one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:32:53 No.10674692 Report

Quoted By: >>10674698

>>10674679
no it doesn't lol
it's objectively better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:34:12 No.10674698 Report

Quoted By: >>10674728

>>10674692
>No articulation
>Shittier less unified color scheme
>Metallic parts
>Clunky leg armor
Yeah right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:39:50 No.10674716 Report

Quoted By: >>10674718

>>10674679
Thats not Mimic.
It's MIME! Mimic's retarded brother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:40:17 No.10674717 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674576
>an actual toa color scheme for the most part instead of dark red and black,
dark red and black is an appropriate toa color scheme.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:40:45 No.10674718 Report

Quoted By: >>10674726 >>10674760

>>10674716
Compare this with the first one.
One is obviously better, and it's picrel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:41:19 No.10674719 Report

Quoted By: >>10674730

>>10674679
>Arms the wrong colour
>Chest the wrong colour
>Hips the wrong colour
>Shoes the wrong colour
It's like Nu-Eliminator all over again.
You don't even try..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:42:24 No.10674722 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674679
Both your incarnations of mimic are bad :)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:43:27 No.10674726 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674718
Dude looks like a poor hobo Glatorian that could only afford a sword and a helmet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:43:44 No.10674728 Report

Quoted By: >>10674742

>>10674698
Well, sure, it's shittier than the real one (even if that one did use Kikanalo parts wholesale) but it's less retarded than your previous attempt. Looks like a generic low-effort Toa MOC rather than some sort of deliberate bottom-tier pisstake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:44:43 No.10674730 Report

Quoted By: >>10674743

>>10674719
I colored it from memory

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:49:14 No.10674742 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674728
I'm also making active efforts to not use official masks. It's to make them look more distinct rather than just cobbled together by 5 year olds who didn't know when to stop

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:49:22 No.10674743 Report

Quoted By: >>10674749 >>10674752

>>10674730
I was under the impression you're actually autistic until now, Digital-Anon, but an autist would actually put in the effort and research the source material.
I´m actually done shitting on you. If you enjoy this stuff, you go.
Even if I don't understand how you can find these oversimplified things pleasing to look at.
I love simple builds too, like the Metru builds for Toa and Matorans.
But some creations are meant to be large and complex, like the Dark Hunters. They're supposed to feel like Titan- or combiner sets.
Anyway, good luck.
Last bit of advice:
You seem like the type that could make great Agori and Glatorian, because all of them actually use simple ass builds in the actual franchise.
Make Glatorians.
>Pic related

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:50:04 No.10674747 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674679

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:50:53 No.10674749 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674743
this, make us some glatorian, anon. I want to see your take on some custom characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:51:16 No.10674751 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674679
>Knight shoulders
I think I´m gonna be sick..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:51:26 No.10674752 Report

Quoted By: >>10674759 >>10675873

>>10674743
I did once. I thought it was shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:53:35 No.10674759 Report

Quoted By: >>10674761

>>10674752
Looks good actually. Iron Tribe?
Rotate the fucker.
It also looks like something Lego could've released as a Vehicle pilot or something

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:53:45 No.10674760 Report

Quoted By: >>10674766

>>10674718
>>10674679
Okay, it's official. This guy is just taking the piss. Everyone stop replying to this fucking idiot. Probably some retard from another website or Discord trying to farm the general for reacrions so they can show their buddies and.laufh at our expense. Stop humoring him. We had a good few threads where wveryone ignored him. Let's go back to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:54:13 No.10674761 Report

Quoted By: >>10674770

>>10674759
If you honestly think this looks good, then get your eyes cleaned

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:55:31 No.10674766 Report

Quoted By: >>10674769 >>10674789 >>10674827

>>10674760
Nah, some trannies are actually obsessed with the Ignika build. Troll or not, this guy is very entertaining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:56:51 No.10674769 Report

Quoted By: >>10674775

>>10674766
No, you aren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:56:57 No.10674770 Report

Quoted By: >>10674776

>>10674761
I was just saying that so he abandons his plan for the Dark Hunters, anon.
And it looks good as Glatorian, honestly. All glatorian look like this, obviously. So it's a good representative of the species.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:59:36 No.10674775 Report

Quoted By: >>10674789 >>10674827

>>10674769
You got me..
Now that you uncovered my samefagging, I'll admit that my 3D mocs are all gay and ugly, I´m gay and ugly and a tranny and Toa Ignika is my favourite Bonkle!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 21:59:48 No.10674776 Report

Quoted By: >>10674781

>>10674770
Get out

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:02:21 No.10674781 Report

Quoted By: >>10674784

>>10674776
>All glatorians use the Ignika build
All glatorians look like shit. Face it.
All glatorians, all Agori are Av-Matorans/Toa Ignika tier.
They are the worst canister sets.
And they are right up 3D-Anon's alley.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:02:59 No.10674784 Report

Quoted By: >>10674788

>>10674781
Why do you have such a beef over the Inika?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:05:00 No.10674788 Report

Quoted By: >>10674790 >>10676190

>>10674784
Me? Who doesn't, lmao
Everything went to shit after they became the norm of Bionicle construction.
Every year had unique heroes. After the Ignika, it was more of the same for the remaining 4 years.
They killed Bionicle in the year 2006

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:05:21 No.10674789 Report

Quoted By: >>10674799 >>10674827

>>10674775
>>10674766
You know how I know you're a tourist and/or the Studio sped? Nobody else in this general has ever, since I've been here back in 2014, has called the inika build the ignika build until your retarded ass came around, because unlike you, everyone else actually knows the jargon sureounding the toyline. You're so fucking ignorant and slow, you can't even lie properly. Get fucked, you samefagging sped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:06:12 No.10674790 Report

Quoted By: >>10674808

>>10674788
I'm genuinely struggling to wrap my head around what you're saying. The Metru are the ones who did that first

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:10:46 No.10674799 Report

Quoted By: >>10674815

>>10674789
I´m in fact 4 different anons who are typing here, and I´m also you, faggot
Ign*ka fags are so delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:14:38 No.10674808 Report

Quoted By:

>>10674790
Bionicle peaked after 2004 and 2005
https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/113460-2006-was-the-most-profitable-year-for-bionicle/
People born after the 90s like me became old enough to buy toys. The 2004 and 2005 were the first Bionicles I saw ever and they enchanted me and probably thousands like me.
Sales never went down after 2004, 2006 was the peak thanks to those new and badass titans and the piraka.
2007 had one of the best stories, but unfortunately that was the beginning of the end. 2008 was the first nail in the coffin.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:18:28 No.10674815 Report

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>>10674799
Can we all just witness this shit right now and never reply to this fucking Studio retard anymore?

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:21:31 No.10674827 Report

Quoted By: >>10674831

>>10674789
>>10674766
>>10674775
The last two are actually me, I never hid the fact, lmao. And I don't care about how to type it, Ignika, Inika. I couldn't care less, they remain the heralds of the worst Toa build to date.
I´m also the Dark Hunter anon >>10673513 here who was the first who called out the 3D-Anon >>10673459 (not me) on his abominations.

I am also Hydraxon-anon from the last two threads. And I´m a tourist, yes. I recently got back into Bonkles and went back to browsing /biog/. 3 years ago, there was alot less cringe shit here than now, lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:24:22 No.10674831 Report

Quoted By: >>10674840

>>10674827
You're both obnoxious. He's a fucking brick wall, tou're a toxic little shit. Nobody cares about what you hate. Talk about what you like instead. Sick of your negative shit. Inika builds make you seethe? Great. Why should anyone care?

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:27:06 No.10674840 Report

Quoted By: >>10674921 >>10674978

>>10674831
Easy. Fikou, the best Rahi. I posted one earlier today, but it got lost in the shitposting.
See >>10673960
It's supposed to be a Fikou with a lightstone growing out of it's back.
Using the claws from the Red Vikings Dragon, Avak's hand pieces and the shield that came with the Wolfrat Vikings set.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 22:40:06 No.10674864 Report

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>ITT: It's/biog/'s time of the month

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:05:15 No.10674910 Report

Quoted By: >>10674960 >>10675922

Presenting a group of three different Matoran I’ve been working on.

I have no names for them yet, but together they’re the Rahi Archival Team, a group who routinely set out to try and discover, capture and study various kinds of Rahi to learn more about them and document their findings, always on the look out for new or undocumented species to find.
The Ta Matoran has a Volo Lutu Launcher and a small hammer, the Ko Matoran has a pair of swords and ice skates he can clip on, and the Onu Matoran has a Drill and Shield he can hoist on the tool pack on his back (which carries other miscellaneous tools).
Surely nothing dangerous will stalk them on their next mission.
And most definitely one of them is not going to end up getting decapitated (again) and require me to find another head (again).

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:09:19 No.10674921 Report

Quoted By: >>10674923

>>10674840
Oh hey if you’re that Onu-Matoran guy I ended up having fun and making a little mining set up while working on the various Rahi and characters I have so you might enjoy this.
I tried to create the Mining Drill and Mining Lamp from the MNOG. The Onu-Matoran slots his drill into it to make it work, as I only have one of them so he has to share it with his equipment. He’s also got a little Ussal Crab as well.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:10:51 No.10674923 Report

Quoted By: >>10674978

>>10674921
I absolutely love it. I gotta get a Turaga Whenua sometime to get one of those spears (and a Ruru). The ussal crab is just precious..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:24:29 No.10674960 Report

Quoted By: >>10675019

>>10674910
nice, they're like micro-toran. I like them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:25:09 No.10674962 Report

Quoted By: >>10675000

I want to try out stud.io, if I don't care about custom parts are there any other essential parks packs aside from sidopak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:29:56 No.10674978 Report

Quoted By: >>10675106 >>10675304

>>10674923
Thanks. I think I got mine from the Alpha Team Tundra Tracker back in the days but I don’t recall exactly.
The Onu-Matoran is the one of the three most interested in the Rahi themselves over just what can be learned about them or the thrill of discovery. He was a member of the Ussalry and used his drill as a weapon along with his shield to fight mounted. The Ussal Crab follows him around. It doesn’t come with him on expeditions though, because he refuses to put it in harms way and doesn’t want anything to happen to them.

He will also eventually be the one who liberates the Wolfrat and manages to befriend it, if I ever do any stop motion or animation with these guys.
The Wolfrat will still be an independent character though; their relationship would be closer to Spear and Fang over Man and Dog. I’ve got two sets of lift arms with studs to put in for its eyes, one red (active/hunting) and one blue (roaming/friendly), but I think I might prefer the blue at this point honestly.
>>10674840
Now personally I wouldn’t call the Fikou the best Rahi, but it’s definitely a contender and nails first prize when it comes to cuteness. Simply precious.

Also what’s this about a Wolfrat Viking set?

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Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:42:09 No.10675000 Report

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>>10674962
There may be some missing colors and def some missing useful parts, also try to keep in mind an ego and how many parts you are using, not every hole needs finished or filled

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Oct 2023 23:52:18 No.10675019 Report

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>>10674960
I’m glad, thanks! I wanted them to all have the McToran’s cuteness and small size, so they’d be properly to scale with all of the Rahi/Things I’ve been building in order to be able to interact with them properly.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 00:36:07 No.10675106 Report

Quoted By: >>10675117 >>10675189 >>10675304

>>10674978
>Also what’s this about a Wolfrat Viking set?
He probably meant the "Viking Warrior challenges the Fenris Wolf" set, which was pic related. It's front half does look kind of similar to the Wolfrat in a passing sense, it just lacks a lot of the grey highlights and has no bottom jaw.

Him accidentally calling it a Wolfrat is pretty funny though.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 00:48:11 No.10675117 Report

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>>10675106
Ah, gotcha thanks
On the subject of the Wolfrat himself, I recently saw a picture of the Bad Guy Barraki set and realized it looks like a Wolfrat that got dumped in Pit Mutagen, so since I’m fond of that line and it’s Spooky Month I decided to go ahead and make it myself to have around for the festivities. I did need to improvise a replacement for the tube but it works well so I’m fine with it.

Also made the Squid Launcher Creep while I was at it, since I think it looks fun (and resembles something in one of my Halloween cookbooks). Unfortunately I seem to have misplaced my Axxon Mask so I could not make the good guy to go complete the three, but I’m sure I’ll find it eventually.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 01:41:22 No.10675189 Report

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>>10675106
In all fairness, it looks way more like a rat with wolf ears than a wolf.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 02:30:58 No.10675236 Report

Quoted By: >>10675312 >>10675515 >>10675592 >>10675674

Built my first big titty moc and first moc in like a decade. Feels good man.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 02:34:17 No.10675241 Report

Quoted By: >>10675312 >>10675592 >>10675674

My goal was to see what I could do with CCBS and traditional Bionicle pieces. Not much. I don't have pistons so she can't stand very well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 03:05:27 No.10675279 Report

Quoted By: >>10675290

this thread makes me laugh, I'm the Dark Hunter expert here

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 03:14:38 No.10675290 Report

Quoted By: >>10675317 >>10675380

>>10675279
If so then you should know that the Shadow Stealer on the right is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 03:23:02 No.10675304 Report

Quoted By: >>10675354

>>10674978
>>10675106
Fikou-anon here, This.
I just remember it looking like a rat to a degree, and in the last Thread I read "Wolfrat" alot, so the name came to mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 03:28:52 No.10675312 Report

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>>10675236
>>10675241
It's like a THICC Vortixx with bunny ears, neat!

"In the time before time, in the industrial island of Xia, there were the Vortixx. The women ruled over the men, and some of them rewarded their male workers with special little pictures where they would dress up as "catgirls" and "bunnygirls" resembling types of Rahi."
- Vakama when a Matoran asked him what the fuck this is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 03:31:20 No.10675317 Report

Quoted By: >>10675340

>>10675290
The stud.io troll is back.
This guy is just taking the piss, so don't reply to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 03:46:56 No.10675340 Report

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>>10675317
of course not, I'm here to talk about Dark Hunter lore, their canon designs will remain unchanged

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 04:04:34 No.10675354 Report

Quoted By: >>10675384

>>10675304
That's fair, I guess I was just pretty excited to finally finish the Wolfrat during that week (since it was a slow thread) and polish it off with the last touches needed to fully complete it.
I'd say the Wolfrat is my favorite Rahi now if just for the personal experience it's given me and how it both got me to more actively return and led me to discover a ton of things about the series I didn't know before. I'm also very fond of the Kane-Ra Bull and Nui-Jaga though, as well as the Ussal Crabs.
And Fenrakk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 04:25:48 No.10675380 Report

Quoted By: >>10675381

>>10675290
>he updated the one on the left
lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 04:27:24 No.10675381 Report

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>>10675380
I did?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 04:31:44 No.10675384 Report

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>>10675354
I never knew about it before that Thread the other week where you posted pics. It's like a mini-Muaka, I adore it sooo much! Good choice for a favourite Rahi!

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 05:04:15 No.10675413 Report

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If anyone wants the Tahu minifigure torso it's up on PAB. 6445846 is the code.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 08:13:31 No.10675515 Report

Quoted By: >>10675519

>>10675236
prompt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 08:20:15 No.10675519 Report

Quoted By: >>10677453

>>10675515
oh ha ha

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 11:13:41 No.10675592 Report

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>>10675236
>>10675241
>ambiguously furry coomer moc
This seems like the one time that chungusfurry's usual lines of scripted gibberish would be appropriate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 12:02:01 No.10675623 Report

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>For a split second, the outcome was in doubt. The Visorak had been conditioned for years to blindly follow the orders of their leader. Sidorak had led them to conquest after conquest, and Roodaka was his successor by virtue of his death. Ordinarily, even the orders of their commander could not make them turn on their leader. But too many of them had seen Roodaka lure Sidorak to his death… and betrayal could not, must not, be rewarded with loyalty. Without so much as a glance in her direction, the horde dispersed, abandoning her as she had abandoned their king.
Absolutely kino. I want a short story following Sidorak and the Visorak horde before Roodaka joined. Just to see how well of a leader he was to gain this level of respect from the Visorak

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 13:38:34 No.10675674 Report

Quoted By:

>>10675236
>>10675241
lol

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 13:41:43 No.10675676 Report

Quoted By: >>10675714 >>10675796

>“You should know better!” said Toa Vhisola. “All research and experiments have to be approved by a Toa. That’s the law. If I reported you to the Vahki —”
>“I know, Toa Vhisola,” Nokama answered quietly. “Thank you for not informing the Vahki Bordakh, Toa Vhisola. I won’t do it again.”
>“See that you don’t.”
It's pretty interesting to see that if Vhisola were to become a Toa, she would just immediately turn against her former idol and begin bossing her around. Almost like she only ever liked Nokama because of the status she had. But now that Vhisola was above Nokama, she treats her like an insect

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 14:21:11 No.10675714 Report

Quoted By: >>10675796

>>10675676
The Time Trap Different Toa Metru AU was pretty interesting. It really leaned into the Orwellian government the Vahki animations were promoting. I wonder if anyone else has expanded on the premise before, since it's way too interesting to just be left as an illusion

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 15:47:07 No.10675796 Report

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>>10675676
>>10675714
>Mfw never will get to see Toa Tehutti in a stone gray Huna
Why even live?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 16:06:21 No.10675805 Report

Quoted By: >>10675809 >>10675810

I want to dive into Matoranology for a bit:
>After being stuck in Spheres for many many years, the future Matoran of Mata Nui devolved into smaller ,weaker versions of themselves, who we know as Tohunga,
>The Matoran of Mata Nui (presumably ranging from between 70 to 100 Matorans) were rebuilt before returning to Metru Nui
So these are the facts about our "early" Matorans, who are in fact the latest (d)evolution of Matoran, alongside their cousins of Karzahni/Voya Nui..
Enter Karzahni.
>While his brother chose to make a haven for good Matoran workers, Karzahni chose to take in the bad ones, intending to repair their faults and return them to their homelands.
But we all know Karzahni was insane (and kind of a metaphor for crazy MOCers) and the Matorans weren't repaired but "revamped" instead into smaller, weaker versions.
As far as we knew, what Matorans naturally looked like would be the following:
>Metru-Nui Matoran
Probably the base form of Matoran who lived in the brain of the universe.
We also get a drawing of two Metru Nui Matorans working in the processor core, in one of the comics. So it's fair to assume that they are one of the more common or most common form of our little dudes.
>Southern Continent Matoran
AKA 'Mahri-Nui Matoran'. These guys sport silver torsos and coloured limbs, opposite to their Metru cousins with coloured torsos and colorless limbs. They appear to be about the same height, just with slightly longer arms and legs. Why is this a base Matoran form and not the Mutagen mutation? Simple: the first thing the Mutagen did to the Voya Nui Matoran sinking into the depths was strip them from previous Mutations. Part of that were the "improvements" that Karzahni made, turning them back into their natural form.
>Av-Matoran
This form is what Matorans look like when they are close to Karda Nui, simple as. (correct me if thats wrong.)

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 16:14:38 No.10675809 Report

Quoted By: >>10675824 >>10675826 >>10676550

>>10675805
Continuing:
We all know how the story ended. The GSR was destroyed and became unhabitable, the Matorans and all other species' evacuated into the newly formed Spherus Magna.

Now I´m coming to my point:
>Matorans are historically prone to prejudice against eachother, thanks to Velika and him giving them free thought.
>Matorans often tend to show some natural prejudice against eachother over their elements. "Firespitter" , "Airhead" ect.
It's fair to assume that the problems in the new Spherus Magna would likely be mostly between Agori+Glatorians vs Matorans+Toa and the rest.
Racial tensions, so to speak.
But would Matorans also be prejudice against eachother? We know that Karzahni's Matorans were abominations.
When the first Voya Nui Matorans were described, they were portrayed as abominations. Ugly. Disformed.
Rebuilt Matorans might look uniform, but they are also a long shot from the normal proportions a Matoran should have.
Would Matorans shit on eachother and bully deformed fellow Matorans?
What are your thoughts?
IMO it's fairly possible that rebuilt Matorans (Mata Nui and Voya Nui) face some sort of treatment that sets them apart from the majority of their people. Perhaps they are seen as freaks?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 16:16:33 No.10675810 Report

Quoted By: >>10675826 >>10676196

>>10675805
I really disagree with the Mahri Matoran being the natural state of Southern Continent citizens for multiple reasons.
>no practical reason the GBs would design different styles of Matoran depending on region
>their limbs are literally the size of a Toa
Which you could argue the Mata aren't the standard Toa template, but still.
>they share the same chest as the Hordika
Again, not standard, but when you have a Matoran that has an entire upper body rivaling the size of various Toa, it's weird. As discussed before about Greg's retroactive Q&As, I disregard a LOT of what he has stated after the line's end, and this bit is a big one. The idea of the mutagen altering everything into a new form but explicitly reverting the Voyatoran is dumb. It makes more sense that they were in the process of mutating externally, but it stopped before they became aquatic when they scrambled for air bubbles.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 16:34:03 No.10675824 Report

Quoted By: >>10675830

>>10675809
To further your ideas tho regardless of the Mahritoran, I think it was established that those changed were subject to more proper repairs after the reformation. So back to the standard, ie., Metru build. I had a headcanon that I was working with where there was prejudice like you describe, and those that refused repairs because they felt comfortable in their current forms were seen as strange and disturbed. I further ran with the idea that a separatist group was formed from these Matoran, and they live apart fdom the rest.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 16:34:21 No.10675826 Report

Quoted By: >>10675843

>>10675810
>>10675809(me again)
I actually agree with that. I just heard alot of anons mention this Greg statement (in the previous Thread I think?) that is what actually convinced me about the Southern Matorans, it sounded reasonable.
Though you make a few good points too. Also
>Hordika chestplate
A chestpiece that first appeared on Mutated Toa and next on Mutated Matoran. Almost seems like it's what happens when Matorans and Toa are mutated..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 16:36:16 No.10675830 Report

Quoted By: >>10675843

>>10675824
Damn, that sounds pretty neat! I could adapt that headcanon.
The normal, restored Matoran living around the great spirit robot, and the "shunned" mutants and freaks living in an underground society.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 16:48:58 No.10675843 Report

Quoted By: >>10675846 >>10675922 >>10676006

>>10675826
Yeah the fact that the chestplate was only used on Hordika previously is what made me lean toward the Mahritoran being mutated.
>>10675830
I also liked the idea of the GSR being plundered by treasure hunters, sort of like what Rey was doing on Jakku in the Force Awakens, with the capital of the new world built near the remains, but not too close, since all the trade markets and stuff would operated close by and skirmishes would be quite ommon amongst traders, pirates, and the like. Like the main city would be below near the base of the body, but the capital city would be nestled on a nearby mountain or something.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 16:56:35 No.10675846 Report

Quoted By: >>10675868 >>10675922

>>10675843
I have a similar headcanon myself.
>The GRS got rekt and became rather unhabitable
>Everyone had to get the fuck out because it probably became permanently dark and cold in there with the brain destroyed. (like death)
So the inside of the GRS would likely be home to all Rahi and other species that like the dark. The Onu-Matorans likely venture inside with warriors to protect them and scavenge Protodermis, weapons and other stuff from the old era.
But also the idea of a Matoran city forming around certain areas of the GRS is agreeable.
In the past we always had Islands divided into districts. Would be quite fitting that the GRS corpse serves as the "final island", with each of the big elemental groups claiming a part of it.
Maybe they call the districts "Mata" to honor the Great Spirit himself?
>Ga-Mata
>Ta-Mata
>Le-Mata
Doesn't even sound bad. Little more than fanfiction though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:11:30 No.10675868 Report

Quoted By: >>10675910

>>10675846
See that's the fun that I wish more people ran with. A select few stories have popped up for supposed fanmade sequels to the original line, but not as many people bother than I feel should. There's way more fun in just continuing the story in your own way than trying to bicker over canon or waste energy trying to reinvent the wheel with G3 or other stuff like that. Btween the end of G1 and all the alt universes, there's plenty of room to cook up stories without having to forego everything else previously established.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:15:40 No.10675873 Report

Quoted By: >>10675876

>>10674752
You have no idea what looks good or bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:19:06 No.10675875 Report

Quoted By:

I haven't had a Bionicle dream since I completed my set collection. It's been literally years. But last night I had a dream that I was at Goodwill and found a couple bags full of a bunch of expensive masks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:19:12 No.10675876 Report

Quoted By: >>10675885

>>10675873
What looks good is using less pieces to attain a bigger effect.
This does none of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:26:13 No.10675885 Report

Quoted By: >>10675891 >>10676115

>>10675876
Again, nigger, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:33:10 No.10675891 Report

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>>10675885
Scroll up. He's trolling. Stop humoring him.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:51:01 No.10675910 Report

Quoted By: >>10676202

>>10675868
Considering multiverses are a thing, headcanons can be valid.
Even tho I like to think that there is a very obvious outcome in the canon, which would be the Matoran universe vs old Bara Magna population with smaller factions inbetween. It's just what is bound to happen. Bionicle ended on the "Yay everyone is together living in paradise and everyone can be friends!" with the final message of Mata Nui.
But reality just isn't all happymaking and rainbows. Especially in a gritty universe like Bionicle.
So even though it's not "canon" it is 99% what happens in the prime timeline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:59:23 No.10675922 Report

Quoted By:

>>10675846
>>10675843
This was kind of part of the inspiration behind the group that I made here >>10674910; since there's now tons of Rahi and lost lands deep within the Great Spirit's Body they're basically a collective group who wanted to 'go back' and find or recover what remained.
The Founder of the group (the Ko-Matoran) also misses being on the Island of Mata Nui as well, and ever since he left as part of the migration to Metru Nui he's found himself longing for that sense of nature and fascination and the thrill of exploration once more and just can't stand being in a Metru now because he finds it hopelessly boring. This is what led him to contacting a bunch of his old friends to try and get together a group who'd work with him to rediscover and/or relocate the Rahi from inside the place, with the Ta-Matoran agreeing in the hopes of finding happiness through fame and the Onu-Matoran (who was a former Archive Worker before and returned to working there when they returned) genuinely just loving the Rahi and nature itself. The three of them have done many successful trips, capturing and bringing back a wide variety of Rahi and finding ways to put them to use. And with each expedition they've been getting closer and closer to discovering the secrets behind their existence.
Which is "The Rahi were created as part of the GSR and lived with Matoran in Harmony to keep it maintained, and Matoran were both capable of creating new Rahi and upgrading/rebuilding them thanks to the teachings of Mata Nui before Makuta's powers caused them to lose the knowledge of this art" and filled various purposes or niches to assist the workers in making their jobs easier. Because that's from the 2001 lore bible and I don't think it's mutually exclusive to "the cult made a bunch of not-animals unable to reproduce for a fake ecosystem because ???", and it's also far better an explanation so I'm going to say it's canon because it basically fixes every Rahi-Related plot hole that exists.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 18:37:09 No.10676006 Report

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>>10675843
>the fact that the chestplate was only used on Hordika previously is what made me lean toward the Mahritoran being mutated.
I always thought the chestplate was a mutation in the Matoran since it looked as it had gills, but never realized that just the other time it appeared was also for the chest of other mutants lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 19:36:43 No.10676115 Report

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>>10675885
I've decided to swear off using the Inika torso

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 19:59:52 No.10676150 Report

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>>10674305
>muh stud dot iyo

LDD fanboi confirmed

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:01:34 No.10676156 Report

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>>10674305

Wat

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:03:09 No.10676158 Report

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>>10674331
Translatetuon:
>OP is a Bob-sagget

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:21:01 No.10676190 Report

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>>10674788
I will eat your bones you pathetic faggot

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:23:58 No.10676196 Report

Quoted By: >>10676200

>>10675810
On the other hand, the Hordika chestplate is no bigger than the Metru torso (might be a bit shorter), so really it's just the limbs. I could, however, see the NNNEERRD Matoran of the brain dome being designed to be less bulky since there's less direct physical labour involved for most of them and you have to pack more of them into a smaller space.
I interpret it all as creative license anyway. The same way that Lesovikk is an Inika build despite being a Toa (transformed, not created) predating the Mata and Jovan's (also a relatively early Toa) shit-tier combiner "set" form is just Nuparu with some recoloured parts and too much weapon piece stuck all over the place. I assume that in "reality" the Mahritoran look more or less the same as Metrutoran, but with a different style to their outer armour. Sets aren't always going to 100% match up, nd we don't always need elaborate lore explanations for every little difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:25:50 No.10676200 Report

Quoted By: >>10676208

>>10676196
I really don't understand what the beef with the Inika torso is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:26:15 No.10676202 Report

Quoted By: >>10676205 >>10676370 >>10676519

>>10675910
My personal favourite headcanon is that, where they do live together, Matoran still live in separate districts from Agori because in daily life they're absolutely disgusted by their biological functions of physically eating, passing waste, and, yes, reproducing sexually.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:27:29 No.10676205 Report

Quoted By: >>10676246

>>10676202
So basically

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:29:19 No.10676208 Report

Quoted By: >>10676215

>>10676200
Where did I say something specifically negative about the Inika torso, you stinky fucking nigger? Aim your transparent flamebait at somebody else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:32:52 No.10676215 Report

Quoted By: >>10676292

>>10676208
Nothing, I'm just replying to a general viewpoint the thread seems to have
>>10668022
>>10667385
>>10670276
>>10671241
>>10671340
>>10671680
And so on

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:50:13 No.10676246 Report

Quoted By: >>10676276 >>10676280

>>10676205
Matoran = Maori/Polynesian
Algori = Aboriginals

>welp

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:08:44 No.10676276 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676246
Shit you're right. They really are just Australians

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:11:22 No.10676280 Report

Quoted By: >>10676525

>>10676246
Mo' like
Vorox/Zesk = Aboriginals

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:17:04 No.10676292 Report

Quoted By: >>10676295

>>10676215
Nobody cares.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:18:02 No.10676295 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676292
500pbp

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:42:38 No.10676355 Report

Quoted By: >>10676539

>>10673523
Better?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:47:19 No.10676370 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676202
District 9

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 22:06:40 No.10676408 Report

Quoted By: >>10676426 >>10676557

Rate my Mata team. (very WIP)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 22:22:29 No.10676426 Report

Quoted By: >>10676456 >>10676481

>>10676408
I don't think you needed to give all of them the big connector hands; while the design isn't bad it leads to some awkward things like Kopaka's hand just being spontaneously blue or Tahu looking like he broke his wrist. If you want/need to give them all custom hands I think basing some of them off of the typical ball socket connector 'hand' would be better in the long run for some of them. The ones with bigger hands should keep them, or at least for those arms which had them, but Kopaka and Gali never had any of those parts to begin with so they should just have smaller hands to more closely match their original silhouette.

The legs look fine, I understand the grey bits probably aren't all obtainable in the colors wanted, but the design itself is good while keeping true to the original silhouette of the toa leg piece. If you want to replace all of the limbs, Kopaka's arms seem mostly fine, even with the rubber joint looking kind of odd there, just again give him smaller hands.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 22:38:12 No.10676456 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676426
I wish the rubber connectors came in all black, but then it's not the biggest problem. Plan is they're all gonna have them, except Pohatu. Still waiting on the pieces to complete the project.
I really like the big goofy hands though, especially with the bendable fingers. So stupid they were never made in white. I'm hoping they won't look so "wrist broken" with my weapon arm design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 22:50:34 No.10676481 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676426
>I understand the grey bits probably aren't all obtainable in the colors wanted

desu I kind of like the grey bits in the legs. It makes me imagine like little mechanical bits poking out from under the exterior colored armor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 23:19:16 No.10676519 Report

Quoted By: >>10676547 >>10677192

>>10676202
The Agori teaching Matoran about sex when

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 23:22:21 No.10676525 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676280
No that's just the Outback wildlife

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 23:31:16 No.10676539 Report

Quoted By: >>10676602

>>10676355
Try recreating the original head and making some variations that keep its main pieces.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 23:38:15 No.10676547 Report

Quoted By: >>10676598

>>10676519
I kinda think that would make things worse. The longer Matoran stay ignorant about organic bodily functions, the better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 23:40:52 No.10676550 Report

Quoted By:

>>10675809
homie's foot on backwards

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 23:47:22 No.10676557 Report

Quoted By: >>10677080

>>10676408
How does Gali's leg work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 00:16:55 No.10676598 Report

Quoted By: >>10676605

>>10676547
They know how to eat normally, they just choose not to because they consider it gross

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 00:21:16 No.10676602 Report

Quoted By: >>10676694

>>10676539
In case you're wondering, I intentionally used custom Haus for the shoulders because in-lore those aren't real Haus, rather decorations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 00:22:47 No.10676605 Report

Quoted By: >>10676804

>>10676598
Yes, and some races like the Skakdi (niggers) and presumably Rahi do so anyway. They'd still find it disgusting having to share a living space with beings that do so, and there's no indication that they pass waste (and they definitely don't do the sax) so that would be two whole new Agori-made horrors beyond their comprehension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 01:29:09 No.10676694 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676602
Unironically very reasonable. Now go ahead and recreate the original head, too.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 01:35:05 No.10676704 Report

Quoted By:

Shit I forgot about this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:02:51 No.10676747 Report

Quoted By: >>10676808

>“Many centuries ago, a group of Matoran decided to grasp for greater power,” the Dark One explained. “They exposed themselves to energized protodermis and became reptilian creatures called protocairns. They emerged from the sea just up there and destroyed the shoreline of Ga-Metru, including the Great Temple. Turaga Dume, the fool, had no idea what to do. Fortunately for the city, they died on their own. Their bodies merged together to form a new landmass, including the spit of dirt upon which the current Great Temple sits.”
Did he HAVE to turn a weird cemetery into the Great Temple? Seems pretty fucked up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:43:25 No.10676804 Report

Quoted By: >>10676808 >>10676921

>>10676605
Here's a better question: What are Glatorian? Are they just like, a biological relative?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:46:33 No.10676808 Report

Quoted By: >>10676825

>>10676747
Sounds based to me, I always liked when the lore was like some crazy fantasy novel.

>>10676804
I'm pretty sure they're their own species, but an anon in a previous thread suggested them being augmented Agori, like cyborgs or whatever, that supe themselves up to be better fighters. I like that a lot better, personally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:53:59 No.10676825 Report

Quoted By: >>10676829

>>10676808
Like 40k Space Marines but improvised

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:57:46 No.10676829 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676825
almost as racist, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:02:35 No.10676921 Report

Quoted By: >>10677190 >>10677491

>>10676804
Greg faggotronics place them as separate species, but that's dumb. My interpetation has always been that all Magnans (Agori, Glatorian, Skrall, Vorox, Zesk, Bone Hunters, etc) are the same species, but different breeds. Some (Skrall and Bone Hunters) distinct races in their own right, like humans and niggers. Some (Vorox and Zesk) the explicit result of genetic modification into a new form. The difference between Glatorian breeds and Agori breeds within the same tribe might be the result of eugenics in the pre-Core-War society selecting for tall, strong gigachads and leaving the manlet prole worker class stunted, with the difference between tribes of baseline Glatorian/Agori being more like ethnicities within the same race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:09:35 No.10676932 Report

Quoted By: >>10676936 >>10676937 >>10676942 >>10676974

i feel like separating masks into great and noble hinders moc potential
when was the distinction made? i'd assume 2004 since that's when it would've been relevant to explain why the toa metru's masks look different but i'm not sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:13:25 No.10676936 Report

Quoted By: >>10676992

>>10676932
Yeah 2004 is where we first get the idea of Noble and Great being different power levels of the same mask rather than just collective names for two sets of masks.
I just ignore it anyway because it's literally irrelevant beyond justifying new moulds for the Metru, I'm not fucking spray-painting a Metru mask for a Toa when I could use the existing Turaga mask.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:14:09 No.10676937 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676932
Yeah, 2004. It was 100% done just as an excuse to explain why the Toa Metru masks look different

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:17:35 No.10676942 Report

Quoted By: >>10676950 >>10676956

>>10676932
It was probably also made that way so the Toa Metru got a "learning what your mask powers do" arc for the movie. Otherwise, Vakama would have immediately figured out what all their mask powers were considering he's a mask maker

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:21:48 No.10676950 Report

Quoted By: >>10677039

>>10676942
he should've known right off the bat because he's a mask maker, even if he didn't know how to activate them he should've been able to tell who had what just by looking at them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:24:11 No.10676956 Report

Quoted By: >>10676974 >>10677039

>>10676942
I have my own separate theory on that. Two, actually: "Vakama was a mediocre mask-maker who barely if ever made Great Masks but got the top spot by screwing up less making basic bitch Matoran masks" and "Mask shape is literally just a meme in general and any mask shape could be any power".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:41:21 No.10676974 Report

Quoted By: >>10676979

>>10676932
I've always disregarded it and treat the powerless/great/noble distinction as innate characteristics of each mask, kinda like the anon in one of these threads saying that masks of power should be rare. You don't know if it's a powerless mask, a noble mask (useful but mild power, still only accessible by certain people) or a Great mask (an actual bona fide Mask Of POWER)

>>10676956
>and "Mask shape is literally just a meme in general and any mask shape could be any power".
I always hated this. Don't care that it's canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:46:46 No.10676979 Report

Quoted By: >>10676983

>>10676974
Given the choice between that and forumtroons who bully Greg into "canonizing" oc donut steel mask designs then screaming and pissing when an entry in one of their faggy contests doesn't use whatever "canon" fanfiction design is linked with the character's mask power, I consider it the lesser of two evils. Plus it lets you use Classic 12 masks as whatever the hell you want since they have the best recolour variety.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:50:28 No.10676983 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676979
I take the following approach:
>Disregard greg
>Disregard BZP trannies
>Tell them to fuck off
Easy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:58:09 No.10676992 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676936
What's funny is that the whole idea literally gets deboonked the same year.
>Lhikan wears a Great Hau shaped differently from the regular one
>Lhikan goes Turaga and it becomes Noble
>Jala inherits it and it's conspicuously "Great" shaped in all three set appearances

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 05:41:58 No.10677039 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676950
>>10676956
Honestly, the easiest way to solve that issue would have been to just make Vakama know what the masks do, but they're so new to being Toa that it doesn't work until the movie

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 06:44:44 No.10677080 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676557
Just barely. Had to come up with a different design since their legs are upside down.
Had a hard time coming up with a way to keep the ball-hip connection until I remembered those "comb wheels" were a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 09:59:06 No.10677190 Report

Quoted By: >>10677219

>>10676921
Yeah this is my headcanon too more or less. Glatorian are just Agori that modded themselves extensively for combat, but Agori are the main species. I also headcanon Toa being modelled after Agori, because I consider the Mata build as the standard, and they stand around the same height, more or less. Matoran are just little midget worker drones, but that goes without saying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 10:05:48 No.10677192 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676519
>Macku finds out about sex
>suddenly everything makes sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 10:50:10 No.10677219 Report

Quoted By: >>10677220 >>10677225

>>10677190
So does that mean that Glatorian are taller than Toa?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 10:52:47 No.10677220 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677219
>Toa are on average 7-10 feet tall
that would make glatorian 8 foot minimum if the Mata are short (which, I mean, they are, shriveled and all.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 11:04:29 No.10677225 Report

Quoted By: >>10677226 >>10677230

>>10677219
In my mind, yes. Toa were im ued with mask powers and elemental energy, so Glatorian by default being taller than them makes sense to me. Primarily because after the shattering and the GBs disappearing, it makes sense to me that the best the Agori could do to create more deadly fighters was simply making them bigger and physically stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 11:05:31 No.10677226 Report

Quoted By: >>10677227 >>10677500

>>10677225
>imbued
But yeah. Toa are like Agori with powers, Glatorian are Agori but hulking warriors, and Matoran are

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 11:07:22 No.10677227 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677226
Like halflings. I guess if I had to draw a comparison, Glatorian are like Spartans from Halo in my world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 11:20:50 No.10677230 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677225
I subscribe to this theory. Sounds pretty decent

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:55:06 No.10677453 Report

Quoted By: >>10677614

>>10675519
Good lord, what's wrong with your sense of humour. Take a breath. Pull out tge stick from your ass. Talk to real people or something. You have a serious problem and I don't know how to help you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 16:44:16 No.10677491 Report

Quoted By:

>>10676921
It makes absolutely no sense socially for Glatorian and Agori to be seperate species. You're telling me that a zillion billion years went by without a single race war happening and Agori getting curbstomped into extinction didn't happen? I know I have so many Neanderthal friends, don't you? There's no fucking way Agori make it through survival of the fittest in a social environment like that for so long.

The premise ONLY makes sense if Glatorian are modified super soliders of the same species.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 16:53:46 No.10677500 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677226
Toa are physically stronger than Agori probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:27:24 No.10677530 Report

Quoted By: >>10677537

Essenger recently lost all his bonkshit to a fire.
Fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:35:26 No.10677537 Report

Quoted By: >>10677558

>>10677530
Who?

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:53:10 No.10677558 Report

Quoted By: >>10677564 >>10677566 >>10677567

>>10677537
The musician who collabed with Cryoshell recently. His (tour?) van exploded with all his packed belongings in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:57:32 No.10677564 Report

Quoted By: >>10677658 >>10677668

>>10677558
Also his fucking dog died a couple days ago too. GOD DAMN, what a week.

Maybe that LittleBrotherhood schizo was right, and this is divine punishment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:58:22 No.10677566 Report

Quoted By: >>10677567 >>10677590

>>10677558
The tranny, right? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:59:23 No.10677567 Report

Quoted By: >>10677580

>>10677558
>>10677566
Also damn Vezon ain't looking so good after getting hit with that wave of energized protodermis

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:10:45 No.10677580 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677567
Despite the plastic just outright warping, the cape surprisingly seems fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:18:28 No.10677590 Report

Quoted By: >>10677604

>>10677566
I don't think he's a tranny, just a twink.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:30:22 No.10677602 Report

Quoted By: >>10677627 >>10677638

This shit is so fucking retarded. I hate these hypotheticals that Greg propagated, like "oh, there could be more Toa of Light. Actually Av-Matoran have a higher chance of becoming Toa. The Avohkii is just a normal Great Mask, anyone could make more."

Thr Avohkii was the only Mask of Light in this universe. Takanuva was the only Toa of Light in this universe. So WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? These hypothetical statistics are absolute horseshit and I'm SEETHING about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:32:11 No.10677604 Report

Quoted By: >>10677663

>>10677590
Same diff. All these modern twinks/femboys inevitably go on HRT because they want to stop their adolescent looks from blooming into proper manhood and think it'll keep their "cuteness". I don't even wanna call it a pipeline, it's basically the same section of pipe.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:34:48 No.10677609 Report

Quoted By: >>10677627

Also fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:38:21 No.10677614 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677453
>1: Hey guys look at this
>2: fotm one-liner
>3: sarcastic response of roughly equal length
>2: words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:47:01 No.10677627 Report

Quoted By: >>10677630 >>10677632

>>10677602
>>10677609
I think his problem is that when he says "I mean I guess it could happen" like he does 90% of the time he doesn't really grasp that it's not just a semi-appeasing answer for a single interested fan but new gospel for forumtrannies to put on the wiki and a new avenue to shout down dissent from fans who might have a different headcanon (which is all this crap ultimately boils down to).
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in assuming that he's actually well-meaning but incompetent rather than just jaded and running with it to keep his profile with the company up and be a centre of attention, of course.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:48:50 No.10677630 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677627
Forgot threadly picrel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:53:51 No.10677632 Report

Quoted By: >>10677642

>>10677627
Part of me thinks that he just won't shut down fan questions because he still thinks the fanbase is all 8 year olds who'll cry if Bionicle's god tells them their Toa of Light MOC breaks canon.

It's like that PR "never say no" rule for when fans are pushing fanon on you under the guise of a question and you want to avoid backlash from telling someone their gay ship isn't real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:58:49 No.10677638 Report

Quoted By: >>10677667

>>10677602
>Av-Matoran have a higher chance of becoming Toa
It's this part that gets me. What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? There have been hundreds of Toa from every other element, and only a single Toa of Light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:02:25 No.10677642 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677632
I actually think of it the opposite way; he's probably aware that the fanbase is mostly adults, but thinks that they actually have a mature attitude towards it as a hobby rather than a rabid manchild obsession.
In either event, I certainly don't think he knows how bad the specific cliques he interacts with are, and he probably views the fanbase as a monolith.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:11:59 No.10677658 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677564
Man, I really want to give him a hug
>Lose your dog
>Lose all your belongings mere days later

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:14:57 No.10677663 Report

Quoted By: >>10677688

>>10677604
Twink here, and what you said is absolutely wrong. Most of us hate trannies and femboys and the way they disgrace our reputation.
Looking youthful and having long floofy hair is not the same as being mentally ill and wanting to chop your cock off, anon.
>Lewa energy

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:17:59 No.10677667 Report

Quoted By: >>10677688 >>10677781

>>10677638
Here's how I see it: the ability to become a Toa is like midichlorian count. Not every Matoran is created with even the ability to become a Toa. Given a Toa stone, they wouldn't even be able to transform, they're simply not capable.

The Av-Matoran were the first Matoran. They had one of two paths: either become a Bohrok or become a Toa. The GBs didn't exactly know how many Toa or Matoran they'd need to maintain the universe, so they gave all the Av-Matoran who didn't become Bohrok the programmed ability to become a Toa if presented the opportunity. And given how few Av-Matoran aren't Bohrok yet, it's safe to assume almost all of them are programmed with the ability to become Toa, whereas most Matoran in the universe explicitly are not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:18:19 No.10677668 Report

Quoted By: >>10677673 >>10677751 >>10677767

>>10677564
Punishment for what? Memeing?
>inb4 the religious fanatic who chops up bonkle parts is right about anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:21:15 No.10677673 Report

Quoted By: >>10677679

>>10677668
Letting Satan puppet him into writing a song about Bionicle that poisons the minds of children into believing in COVID.

Or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:26:24 No.10677679 Report

Quoted By: >>10677693

>>10677673
An actual schizo. Why am I not surprised.
>Believes he's doing god's work by making a fanfiction stop motion movie about Bionicle
America is such a weird place, I´m so glad I´m not there, lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:33:28 No.10677688 Report

Quoted By: >>10677732 >>10677737

>>10677663
Well he's the kind that wears girl clothes, I'm not sure how much overlap you have with that.
>>10677667
>midicholrian count
Doesn't exist, prequels a shit.
Anyway, I don't know if I agree with that interpretation. Way I see it, any Matoran is capable of becoming a Toa. "Destiny", for lack of a better descriptor of the mechanism, clearly isn't ironclad, because we have absolute failures like Lesovikk and Nidhiki.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:35:42 No.10677693 Report

Quoted By: >>10678056

>>10677679
local man is incapable of separating statement from speaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:44:43 No.10677708 Report

Quoted By: >>10677733 >>10677781 >>10678071

maybe i'm just old but i thing av matoran as a concept is kinda dumb
takua was better as the wayward ta matoran, not an av matoran and the literal first matoran to be created
honestly as time as passed i care less and less about anything post 2004, the story got too full of itself and the sets strayed too far from their technic origins

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:58:45 No.10677732 Report

Quoted By: >>10677757 >>10677802

>>10677688
"Destiny" is just programmed directive. Some Matoran aren't programmed with thr ability to transform into Toa. Computers can only accomplish what they're programmed to do. That said, that programming can be interrupted before it's accomplished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:59:00 No.10677733 Report

Quoted By: >>10678071

>>10677708
Personally I never minded the "expanded lore" so long as it wasn't destructive to the existing setting. Makuta no longer a literal force of chaos? Only if he's able to act as one very convincingly. Him being a "demigod" and forcing himself in as leader of a ton of others of similar power level while still acting as the de facto force of chaos? (My form of chaos is better than your form sorta kinda) I can see. This isn't the way it was handled in canon, so I understand why people don't like it. GSR rising out of the depths, a continent-sized machine, going home? Incredible setpiece, but did we really have to destroy the starting island? Couldn't we have kept it in some capacity? Imagine if he literally wore it as a mask instead. That would have been kino. But, again, not exact canon, so I understand why people don't like the direction. That one wayward matoran has others like him, but they're not quite like him in very important ways? I think that's a cool premise. Not sure I like a lot of the direction... but I don't think it's bad on its own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:01:06 No.10677737 Report

Quoted By: >>10677757

>>10677688
>any Matoran is capable of becoming a Toa
Problem is, of you interpret it this way, the statement about Av-Matoran makes absolutely zero fucking sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:10:32 No.10677751 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677668
Being a crossdressig weirdo that forwards pro tranny dogma is probably closer to what he's referring to than memes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:19:14 No.10677757 Report

Quoted By: >>10677782 >>10677802

>>10677737
Which is different from the current state of affairs... how.
>>10677732
I should expand on my train of thought there because in a vacuum that statement is fairly irrelevant.
>All Matoran that we've seen transform have been leading figures/heroes/best at what they do/"different"
>This is statistically ridiculous if the ability to become a Toa is random
>Therefore that capacity must express itself, "pre-destiny" if you will, in a way that makes those Matoran stand out
>If the programming dictated their fate to that degree, it stands to reason that it wouldn't allow a "pre-destined" Matoran to be a cowardly self-serving douchebag like Nidhiki
There's a lot of conditionals in there, but that's roughly my thinking.

Anonymous !!SMatHMv1E7f

Anonymous !!SMatHMv1E7f Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:24:32 No.10677767 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677668
He's unironically the bionicle terry davis. honestly quite incredible

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:31:57 No.10677781 Report

Quoted By: >>10677783

>>10677708
It also severely undermines the specialness of the Avohkii itself if it's just a glorious Toa power activator no better than a regular Toa stone. Takua literally found the Metru's six Toa stones and used them to signal the Toa's (I consumately refuse to call them Toa Mata) canisters. He could've just used one of them himself and become a Toa of Light, arguably a better one since he'd have an actual mask power instead of just bonus juice. The Avohkii is far more interesting when it transforms a Matoran of a regular element into the fabled Toa of Light.
In fact, if the Order of Mata Nui knew where most of the Av-Matoran lived, which they should, they're the ones responsible for mind-wiping and transplanting some of them like Takua and the canister builder in Karzahni, and they could determine which Matoran could/would become Toa (if you assume that only some of them are capable of it as >>10677667 claims), which again they should, since they singled out Krakua for protection, why exactly wouldn't they "arrange" for more Toa of Light?
Later lore just raises more quest chins than it answers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:32:39 No.10677782 Report

Quoted By: >>10677802

>>10677757
I'd say that "Destiny" is just a way they comprehend the often strange nature of the world around them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:33:22 No.10677783 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677781
*glorified

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:53:21 No.10677802 Report

Quoted By: >>10677822

>>10677732
>>10677757
>>10677782
I've always been a fan of "Destiny" being programmed in as a failsafe where if the conditions are present in an individual and his/her environment then that "destiny" can be achieved, including unlocking previously inaccessible options, like transforming into a Toa. You could argue that something like that is hardwired into objects like Toa Stones or the Avohkii itself (presuming as much, one reason the Avohkii might be Legendary instead of Great could be that it can override certain ...destinous?... prerequisites and transcend the normal Destiny system, as an additional failsafe by the GBs (making ANY Matoran an Av-Toa, arguably the most powerful Toa element; Working on ANY Matoran, potentially even more than one, so like if Takanuva were to pass it around it could turn multiple Matoran into Av-Toa; making it required for it to be under such lock and key to prevent another Elemental Lords scenario; etc etc)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 21:05:47 No.10677822 Report

Quoted By: >>10677823 >>10677827

>>10677802
>potentially even more than one
Didn't work on Toa Empire Takua. The implication in the story was clearly and stupidly unsubtly meant to be something like "dEsTiNy HaS cHaNgEd durr" but my takeaway was always that it's just a one-shot johnny, same as any other source of Toa power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 21:07:58 No.10677823 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677822
Of course, that story was from 2008, when the really obnoxious nu-lore hit its stride, so who the fuck knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 21:10:02 No.10677827 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677822
I think the alternate universes are very friendly to "any headcanon can disregard these because they have different rules"

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 22:01:24 No.10677880 Report

Quoted By: >>10677888 >>10678079

>last few seconds
wait THIS is what the bionicle trannies look like??

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 22:07:46 No.10677888 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677880
This is what fags who want to be "validated" no matter the stakes do.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 22:18:26 No.10677907 Report

Quoted By: >>10677955

Funniest shit I've seen LMAO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 22:53:20 No.10677955 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677907
Sometimes God has a sense of humour
Would've been funnier if it was one of those forum collectorfags though
Y'know the ones that hoard misprints/prototypes and such

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 23:49:57 No.10678056 Report

Quoted By: >>10678154

>>10677693
..nah bro, I was talking about little christcuck studios, not the anon who replied.
But you're right, maybe anon is a schizo too, feeling called out like that. kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 23:57:47 No.10678071 Report

Quoted By: >>10678077 >>10678289 >>10679265 >>10679296

>>10677708
>>10677733
I loved MNOG too, but this religious Mata Nui era obsession is so fucking restrictive
>I wish the story had never progressed and the plot would always be stuck on the starting island with the starting characters and we would keep doing the quest for the masks forever and ever!
2004 and 2005 had a very large-scale feel and still felt very magical and unique. It expanded the lore and continued the story in a good way. And Makuta not being "god's brother" isn't really untrue, because the end of Bionicle had Mata Nui mourn Makuta. It said "one he once could call brother" when Mata Nui's thoughts were described. I am pretty sure as Makuta of Metru Nui, Teridax and Mata Nui had a special bond.
Sure, the sets got less and less technic but I suppose that was something Lego would do either way, because making designs is hard work. Bigger pieces saves time and this got worse and worse over the years.
All in all, Bionicle did nothing wrong.
(Except for introducing the Inika build and Bara Magna)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 00:01:30 No.10678077 Report

Quoted By: >>10678090

>>10678071
>Bara Magna
Bara Magna is fine. And it's not even a problem that the greater plans for it were cancelled. Lego needed to establish the robot's origins and set the stage for a final battle in order to justify the GSR reveal narratively. It accomplished exactly that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 00:01:55 No.10678079 Report

Quoted By:

>>10677880
This is so sad..he would actually be a decent looking dude if it wasn't for all the S O Y

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 00:06:07 No.10678090 Report

Quoted By: >>10678236

>>10678077
I kinda liked it, it felt like the John Carter movie but I would have preferred it at something apart from Bionicle.
The existence of the Agori/Glatorian fucked everything.
>Toa and Matoran? Forget that, they are just the .2 versions of these funky alien dudes!
>Mata Nui? He just works for the Great Beings who are nothing more but a couple of these funky human-like alien dudes too!
>Biomechanical Robots? We present to you: Robotical Biologicals! The new and cool species!
They didn't deserve the spotlight while we had a whole civil war happening in the GSR, which would have been a much better setting for the toys.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 00:38:46 No.10678154 Report

Quoted By: >>10678272

>>10678056
>christcuck

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 01:19:37 No.10678206 Report

Quoted By: >>10678251 >>10678295 >>10678459 >>10678598

Also, absolutely fuck the Kanohi Nuva collection arc. The masks let you share their powers anyway, and the Nuva rarely ever switch out their masks after pointlessly collecting a whole set. Matoran don't even use these masks.
>hurr durr Artakha teleported them there
Fucking kill me.

The silver protodermic masks are slightly cool because they actually represent something. No fucking wonder why they're the sought after ones. The rest are fucking useless in every way. Most of them even look pretty shit on MOCs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 01:39:43 No.10678236 Report

Quoted By: >>10678253

>>10678090
Imagine if Mata Nui went back to the home planet of their creators (no Terry winning plot twist BS) and everyone had fucking died eons ago, and they had to unearth the reason everything fell apart and why they were shipped off at the apex of the fall. Now THAT would be an interesting alt story. Or maybe Terry still won and he shuts down due to some built in failsafe upon return, so he's doemant while his followers try to jumpstart the MU again while the heroes have to halt them as well as explore the dead world outside the robot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 01:51:24 No.10678251 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678206
Considering how much the story glossed over that, it was pretty obvious it was something they were forced to do by the story team to justify the new mask collectibles

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 01:52:40 No.10678253 Report

Quoted By: >>10678773

>>10678236
2009 was going to be a soft reboot regardless since Lego thought the story was too complex for new kids to follow

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 02:06:22 No.10678272 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678154
Hey now, JIDF operatives are allowed to like Bionicle too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 02:14:03 No.10678289 Report

Quoted By: >>10678442

>>10678071
hey now, i think metru nui is a cool setting and i wish more was done with it, only one year with the city proper was a crime, the visorak were neat but it just being a ruined city was a let down compared to the orwellian tone the year prior was hinting towards and then dropped
2006+ started feeling less like the original bionicle plan and more like greg's fanfics that were only moderately reigned in, as much as i love the piraka they're super edgy compared to the antagonists from the years prior, except for maybe the shadowed one but again most of his character came from greg at the tail end of 2005

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 02:16:25 No.10678295 Report

Quoted By: >>10678304 >>10678396 >>10678445

>>10678206
Here's a part of that story that occurred to me this very week and has been burning my ass since. Skip over the actual Kanohi Nuva collection horseshit to 2007/2008. The Nuva literally meet with Artakha (or he talks to them through a closed door cuz he's a vain prick or something, I forget). He gives them new sets of armour, new weapons, gay shitty blasters, and new masks to go with the armour.
So... why exactly in the fuck did he not give them Golden Kanohi Nuva? He made regular Golden Kanohi (which have twice the mask powers anyway), why wouldn't he make a golden version of the new ones?
I know the irreallife reasons, of course
>Lego finalized the Phantoka/Mistika models before they decided they were going to be the Toa Nuva, and even if they hadn't this was before Ninjago goldblarf and Lego was being very sparing about actually using gold pieces
As well as the inevitable Greg cope were he asked that
>Kanohi Nuva are too powerful to be combined into a Golden Kanohi because... they just are okay?!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 02:17:56 No.10678304 Report

Quoted By: >>10678445

>>10678295
sometimes I really feel like 01-03isms are too autistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 03:01:13 No.10678396 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678295
Even though Nuva are objectively shitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 03:31:40 No.10678442 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678289
OBEY TURAGA DUME
TURAGA DUME SEES ALL
A BUSY MATORAN IS A HAPPY MATORAN
>>10673995

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 03:34:51 No.10678445 Report

Quoted By: >>10678605 >>10678633

>>10678295
The Toa Olda are boring. They shouldn't even have made a comeback.
Following the Toa Metru and Mahri was much more interesting. They had actual personality.
The Toa Mata were instead just:
>"MUH FIRE! I AM ANGRY!"
Also >>10678304 this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 03:38:44 No.10678459 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678206
>Asterix and Obelix in the bottom left corner
They've seen some shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:19:17 No.10678598 Report

Quoted By: >>10678603 >>10678607

>>10678206
I think part of the reason we never got mask packs again is exactly because of how much mental gymnastics it took to justify them for the Nuva instead of coming up with a new gimmick. Which sucks because for every non-Inika team after that, alternate mask colors would have been perfectly sensible and trivial to integrate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:24:07 No.10678603 Report

Quoted By: >>10678606 >>10678627

>>10678598
Did they really need to integrate it into the story? Kinda think most people would have been happy with "Here's some random recolours, enjoy" by that point in the line's life. Certainly would have been more successful than blue gummy squid packs, or spinner recolours, or the same coloured disks with different number/border trimming, or LITERAL FUCKING PLASTIC BALLS FUCK I'M STILL STEAMED ABOUT THAT ONE.
Also, funny coincidence, I have Matoro's Tryna sitting on my desk from an ongoing sorting project, and it's got me thinking how recolours would work for the Mahri masks, what with 1/3 of them just being silver.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:28:59 No.10678605 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678445
>Edit: Thank you for the gold kind stranger!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:29:52 No.10678606 Report

Quoted By: >>10678611

>>10678603
They didn't even try to integrate the Krana Kal into the story, so it probably wasn't a big priority for them by that point. You didn't even need to collect all the Kanoka disks since the Toa Metru only needed to find the six great disks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:29:58 No.10678607 Report

Quoted By: >>10678611

>>10678598
>Metru
they added silver molding to masks that do nothing but make them more limited
>Hordika
No Matoran at all
>Inika
NOT EVEN RECOLORED MASKS (EXCEPT ONE, WHICH MOST PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WAS DIFFERENT???)
>Mahri
Finally recolors! ...2 of them...! (technically 3. Should have been more. ALSO THIRD METRU RED HUNA.)
>Phantoka
new molds....... huh.mp3 (also molded masks and animalistic masks cus lol lol lol)
>everything after

Really, if they had just stuck with the masks from the first 4 years, we would have been golden. Someone above even suggested the Hordika having bona fide masks and I don't see why not. And mask packs every year - easy money, literally like 5 bucks for max 10 pieces in 2004 through 2008 minimum, lego would have been rolling in dough and the community would have been a million times happier. I'm about ready to just make a bona fide full autism g3 that's a retelling of the entirety of Bionicle, both g1 and g2, repackaged, re-wrapped, all new lore and reengineered characters, new versions of old sets, new parts... My autism is about to turn into schizophrenia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:36:22 No.10678611 Report

Quoted By: >>10678619 >>10678641

>>10678607
>metrutoran have partly silver masks because they don't have enough latent elemental power to fully colour them
>mctoran all have fully solid-coloured masks
OH NO NO NO METRUSISTERS WE GOT TOO COCKY
Just joshing. Anyway, I figure they could have done recolours of the Matoran masks for '04 and Toa recolours (plus the Kiril and Kualsi) in '05, like how they did the gold and silver (blank) Toa masks in '02 even though they were really '01 masks story-wise.
>>10678606
One of the tubs straight-up came with two of the great disks (Ko- and Ga-). It did for me anyway, I don't know if it was random but I doubt it.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:47:33 No.10678619 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678611
Huh, nevermind. Okay, in that case, I guess I literally got two great disks from the one disk pack (only containing two disks) I bought.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:53:58 No.10678627 Report

Quoted By: >>10678630 >>10678632

>>10678603
>how recolours would work for the Mahri masks, what with 1/3 of them just being silver.
imagine the mahri masks in metru primaries + some new extra colors. I mean, all sorts of masks in random colors too. This could have been real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:57:02 No.10678630 Report

Quoted By: >>10678635

>>10678627
True, don't need to limit ourselves to thinking of it in terms of six sets of six.
It's a shame there aren't more bootleggers working in ABS plastic aside from that one chinaman with the Hau and Kraahkan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:59:00 No.10678632 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678627
I always wanted a black Volitak and a white Tryna, just to see what the sets would look like with normal mask colours

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 06:59:27 No.10678633 Report

Quoted By: >>10678637

>>10678445
>They had actual personality.
The Metru, maybe. The Mahri are boring as shit, besides Matoro. Greg barely knew what the fuck to do with any of those characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:00:24 No.10678635 Report

Quoted By: >>10678639

>>10678630
Isn't that mostly because you need the plastic moulds to make them? Sounds expensive for a normal guy doing it for fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:02:06 No.10678637 Report

Quoted By: >>10678640 >>10678649 >>10678669

>>10678633
Yeah amazing that you can go into it with 5 distinct characters that all have pre-established personalities and backgrounds and they all just end up as generic interchangeable good guys.
Also, and I may get some flak from this, but Nuparu a shit. Should've been Onepu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:04:04 No.10678639 Report

Quoted By: >>10678699

>>10678635
Well I did say bootleggers, not home recasters, but yeah. The moulds are expensive to make, and the whole process of actually injecting ABS plastic is, to my admittedly limited understanding, much more involved compared to, say, generic resin casting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:05:27 No.10678640 Report

Quoted By: >>10678658

>>10678637
If he actually fucking acted like Nuparu, he'd be a really interesting Toa. Alas, he's practically only Nuparu in name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:07:02 No.10678641 Report

Quoted By: >>10678644 >>10678645 >>10679202 >>10679230

>>10678611
>metrutoran have partly silver masks because they don't have enough latent elemental power to fully colour them
Oh great, did someone get that canonized? I'd rather stick with the idea that it was just big city fashion, thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:12:06 No.10678644 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678641
Was that not always the official explanation? Like "powerless masks have silver streaks to show off how shitty they are" or something to that effect.
Don't give enough of a shit to check in either event (wikifags in bodybags), I always thought it looked kinda cool anyway. Like I've used it on Toa before too. If Hewkii and Jaller can have masks dual-moulded with orange and skeetorange respectively, why can't other Toa have masks with silver streaks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:12:09 No.10678645 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678641
Nah, it's just the fashion at the time. Apparently it's an easy way to distinguish powerless masks from great masks, but who cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:16:01 No.10678649 Report

Quoted By: >>10678653

>>10678637
I'd say the biggest issue with the Ignition years was that they focused way too much on the story instead of the characters. The Metru had 10 books dedicated to themselves. The Inika really only had 7, and they had to share the story with 6 villain sets and however many titans there were that year. Hell, they didn't fully become Toa until book 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:21:17 No.10678653 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678649
It's why I'm slightly annoyed that the book featuring the Inika traveling down the cord got cancelled. It was the perfect type of low-stakes adventure that would mostly feature the six Toa interacting among themselves that they needed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:24:19 No.10678658 Report

Quoted By: >>10678669 >>10678680

>>10678640
I don't mean Nuparu Inika/Mahri specifically, I mean Nuparu in general. He was cool when he was just the engineer who made the Boxor, then they added a bunch of retcon faggotronics in the Metru years where he ACKCHUALLY made the Vahki and all their related units/prototypes. Seems like they were forcing him a bit too hard and overinflating his achievements just for the sake of referencing Matoran we already know from Mata Nui.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:40:14 No.10678669 Report

Quoted By: >>10678685

>>10678658
>>10678637
It's not like Kongu and Onepu had much characterisation besides being captains of the Gukko Force/Ussalry. And Huki was just the sports athlete who got sick. In 2001, it was always the Chronicler's Company that had the stronger characterisations

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:47:03 No.10678680 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678658
Yeah, it was kind of a reverse flanderization - instead of Nuparu growing overly defined by his engineer trait, the act of engineering itself was made synonymous with exactly Nuparu and no one else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:49:55 No.10678685 Report

Quoted By: >>10678689

>>10678669
Well obviously that would have been the ideal outcome. Our girl Maku got screwed the worst cuz she was also one of the McToran but got usurped by a suddenly relevant literal who in 2003.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:53:53 No.10678689 Report

Quoted By: >>10678693 >>10678698 >>10678701 >>10679548

>>10678685
>Matoran Hahli is stuck in a shitty, broken flash game nobody likes
>Hahli Inika has one of the ugliest masks ever made and only exists to have headaches that tell her where the mask of life is
>Hahli Mahri is the poster girl for like green disease
It's like Macku cast a curse on Hahli for stealing her spotlight

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:54:54 No.10678693 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678689
>Lime green*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:59:34 No.10678698 Report

Quoted By: >>10678728

>>10678689
>shitty, broken flash game nobody likes
It's truly amazing what an unworthy successor MNOGII was. Instead of romping around the island having adventures and witnessing the Toa's battles, you... play Kolhii. And train to play Kolhii. And earn money to pay for the training to play Kolhii.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 07:59:52 No.10678699 Report

Quoted By: >>10678712 >>10678731 >>10679261 >>10679878

>>10678639
it's really weird seeing people say stuff like this. I've been 3d modeling and 3d printing for a while, about to learn how to make aluminum molds via a 150 dollar cnc mill, and am going to get a 150 dollar plastic injection molding machine right after that - and ABS is pretty easy to handle from all my research. But I guess I'll leave any valid conclusions til a couple months from now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:01:54 No.10678701 Report

Quoted By: >>10678793

>>10678689
hahli is a gigastacy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:08:35 No.10678712 Report

Quoted By: >>10678714

>>10678699
Like I said, I have no firsthand experience with ABS casting. I've only worked in resin. If you can get a good setup going and start cranking out recast masks 'n' shit, all the more power to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:16:52 No.10678714 Report

Quoted By: >>10678721

>>10678712
I wasn't trying to brag or anything, I just was surprised that people in a community like this that talk about things like this don't really know how it works generally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:22:46 No.10678721 Report

Quoted By: >>10678722

>>10678714
What else is this website for, if not for talking out of your arse about things you don't understand because the veil of anonymity inevitably protects you from any shame at being proven wrong?

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:23:12 No.10678722 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678721
quite

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:38:13 No.10678728 Report

Quoted By: >>10678729

>>10678698
It would be okay if it was fun, but it's not. It takes fucking forever to gather the resources to start training, and each training session barely does anything for your stats. Kohlii itself is a crapshoot if you even score a goal. There's nothing to do in half the villages like Le-Koro besides finding the next training area or buying materials, so it doesn't incentivise you to explore either

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:39:15 No.10678729 Report

Quoted By:

>>10678728
Yeah, no, I've played it, it fucking SUCKS. I'm pretty sure you literally have to spend hours training each stat. I just cheated them all to 100, hell with that mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:40:04 No.10678731 Report

Quoted By: >>10678734

>>10678699
Tell us if you've figured out how to make your own masks. I'm sure you can make a lot of good money selling them if they're close to official Lego quality

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:44:12 No.10678734 Report

Quoted By: >>10678735 >>10678736 >>10679878

>>10678731
The biggest issue is mold complexity. 2-part molds are almost baby-tier easy to make, but that means you can only make, say, holes in one direction. But yeah, I might be able to. I wanted to make a figure line that was similar to bionicle and make it compatible with lego technic pieces (because there's no reason other companies haven't done this other than ignoring the potential profit lol) I've been working on it since december of last year and I only put it on the backburner due to financial issues. (setting up a factory, we decided, was too costly as an initial project, and we'll wait til after we get some of out other properties going.) I'll 100% shill here when we get it going though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:45:25 No.10678735 Report

Quoted By: >>10679388

>>10678734
Are you the same one that was unsubtly hinting about his plans to sell bootlegs a few threads back?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 08:47:11 No.10678736 Report

Quoted By: >>10679095 >>10679388

>>10678734
Can Lego sue you for making obviously bootleg Technic parts?

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 10:11:55 No.10678773 Report

Quoted By: >>10678782

>>10678253
I know that, I'm just speaking in hypotheticals. Obviously the story had to reboot in order to keep the line alive, but if it wasn't the case, that seemed like an interesting direction it could have possibly gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 10:34:39 No.10678782 Report

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>>10678773
My idea for a soft reboot would probably be a continuation of Makuta winning, but we follow a completely different Toa team somewhere like the Southern continent. A story about a band of heroes trying to protect their island from the new threat of Makuta sending his army to conquer the entire Matoran Universe is close enough to the 2001 that it should count as a soft reboot. The only thing you need to know getting into the story is that Makuta is the big bad God and you have to take him down. You can keep the previous Toa around through story serials, and they can eventually meet up after a couple years of the new reboot team

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 10:48:05 No.10678793 Report

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>>10678701

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 10:49:07 No.10678795 Report

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 10:51:20 No.10678797 Report

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 10:54:59 No.10678801 Report

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>>10678797
Now THIS is a nigga who rapes niggas.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 10:57:48 No.10678804 Report

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 11:02:58 No.10678811 Report

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>>10678804
knows what sex is, fucks
>>10678797
doesn't know what sex is, fucks

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 11:30:58 No.10678828 Report

Quoted By: >>10678938 >>10679161

Does anyone else hate this stupid ball piece?

As a decoration it's fine but so help me if you use it as part of a joint, axles never fucking stay in the hole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 11:41:20 No.10678833 Report

Quoted By: >>10678837

>>10666454
Wait, so why did Essenger bring all of his belongings with him on tour in the first place? Why would you bring the bulk of your Bionicle collection on the road instead of leaving them at home?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 11:43:52 No.10678837 Report

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>>10678833
Nevermind. So he says "most of my vollection" but then backtracks and says most of it is a home and they were mainly donations while travelling. Suddenly I care even less than the miniscule amount I aready did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 13:28:19 No.10678938 Report

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>>10678828
Don't use it. Use it for eyes or whatever. Use the push-through ones for connections.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 15:09:55 No.10679095 Report

Quoted By: >>10679388

>>10678736
Not that anon but it probably depends on if LEGO has any Design Patents for these parts. I'd guess no since its been a while but maybe for some of the parts that are still used. Although they probably could still try to strong arm any competitor similar to the way they tried doing it with the bricks.

Either way I'm wishing best of luck to that anon. I'm definitely interested in a new Technic compatible contraction toy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 15:55:01 No.10679161 Report

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>>10678828
I think it looks really nice but some of them have better quality than others
you either get very tight reliable connections or a loose widget that keeps falling out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 16:24:01 No.10679202 Report

Quoted By: >>10679258

>>10678641
>mfw having discoloured masks is just part & parcel of living in a big Metru

Thanks Turaga Dume

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 16:45:24 No.10679230 Report

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>>10678641
I think they were meant to be painted silver on top but I never liked that. I prefer the idea that they just forged them with silver because they were more decadant and could be decorative with their kanohi.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:02:10 No.10679258 Report

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>>10679202
The silver bit is literally just paint in-universe. The Tohunga had fully coloured masks because the silver paint scratched off over the years.
So it's easy to say that your Matoran was just too lazy to mark his mask with the chrome spray, and has a fully coloured one. I do the same for my Matoran moc. He never bothered with the spray-on silver tan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:05:16 No.10679261 Report

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>>10678699
If you could mass produce Masks of Ultimate Power in injection molded quality, that'd be great. Thanks in advance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:06:44 No.10679265 Report

Quoted By: >>10679271 >>10679273 >>10679296

>>10678071
Look I'm (mostly) fine with where the story ended up going but I will be honest, my favorite place really will just always be going back to that starting island of Mata Nui back when the series had a heavier blend of mysticism and folklore with it's fantasy and sci-fi and the world felt so lush and alive. A big part of this is the sheer undiluted variety of Rahi living on Mata Nui alone; almost every other location has little to do with them but the Rahi were a huge and important part of Mata Nui and even after their initial prominent role was done with they were still a presence on the island which impacted a lot of things and influenced the world because of their actions, whether it was as big as the damage Rahi caused due to them fleeing Bohrok Swarms or just something small like the Ussalry and Kewa Birds or Mahi and Husi. Even seeing them in the games back then did a lot to make the world help come to life with the variety given. I also loved the culture and mysticism of the original incarnation of the setting the most, especially Makuta and Mata-Nui being described as 'spirit brothers' and being less characters and more living functions of the world, the original Toa Team and all their personality, the ancient ruins overgrown with nature and the unique and creative use of technic bits, etc. I love Bionicle as a whole, but nothing to me has the lasting impact that the original storyline had.
>I wish the story had never progressed and the plot would always be stuck on the starting island with the starting characters and we would keep doing the quest for the masks forever and ever!
I wouldn't want it to go forever, but I wouldn't have needed it to: I'd have been perfectly happy with the (first) story ending back in 03', with Takanuva merging with Makuta and then awakening Mata Nui, as they initially meant. It was a perfectly fine ending to a charming tale, and would've kept things self-contained and satisfying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:11:04 No.10679271 Report

Quoted By: >>10679292

>>10679265
>the original Toa Team and all their personality
Here's the thing: character complexity is overrated as fuck. Iconography and lasting impressions are most important. The Mata are great characters BECAUSE they're simple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:11:46 No.10679273 Report

Quoted By: >>10679286 >>10679293

>>10679265
As an add-on, I don't even think the initial storyline coming to an end necessarily meant Bionicle itself had to end, either.
After all there is (and was) a lot more to their world to still explore, and Makuta as a living cosmic entity of destruction is omnipresent and can't truly be beaten. His shadow would still be cast over everything else in the setting; only now Mata Nui being awakened would mean that there's more hope for people to more actively fight back against him.
Even if I still love the Island I don't think it should've been the only place explored either; but I think this would've allowed for a lot of self-contained narratives which wouldn't need to be tied together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:18:19 No.10679286 Report

Quoted By: >>10679406

>>10679273
You're saying a lot of words and they're not making much sense, so let's put it this way. What would your ideal 2004 set lineup be and what would the story be? Keep in mind that you need to have two waves of canister sets and one wave of smaller Matoran sets. You can keep going on for the other years too if you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:20:59 No.10679292 Report

Quoted By: >>10679303

>>10679271
I don't think the Mata have zero depth to them but I do think they're the most memorable and lasting Toa in the setting because they aren't overtly complicated or have a 50 page backstory that explains their motivations; the Toa Mata are who they are, and their simplicity works in their favor and adds to their charm. I can still remember all of their personalities and how they behaved clearly. In later years the only one who felt like they ever reached this height was Mata Nui, which in a way I suppose is perfectly appropriate, because he himself is also simple and knows who he is.
The only 'complex' character I can remember who I genuinely really like is The Makuta himself, and I do honestly love both versions of The Makuta quite a lot, but I'll be honest, if I had to pick between them I do prefer his original incarnation over the rewritten one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:21:30 No.10679293 Report

Quoted By: >>10679310 >>10679426

>>10679273
The whole point of Makuta is that he's a manifestation of the dark side of Mata Nui, and merging with Takanuva cleanses him, allowing Mata Nui to be whole and able to awaken. Mata Nui couldn't awaken until the Makuta was purged.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:22:36 No.10679296 Report

Quoted By: >>10679444

>>10679265
>>10678071 (me) again,
So while I stick to my post's statement, I kinda agree with you on this anon:
>More Rahi and them playing a bigger role
Rahi kept popping up and impacted the story, like the Tahtarok, the Kikanalo herd, the eel on Mahri Nui and so on. But the first legend on Mata Nui did them much better, and made them look way more mechanical. Less so in 2004 and then steadily declining. It was a shame.
>The story could have ended
Agreed. There was no reason they couldn't have just kept telling the stories of the past, and not continuing with the "present" plot on Mata Nui and the Toa and villagers there.
They had their legend, they told a very beautiful little story, there was no reason to make them come back again and again.
I would have been more than happy to have a story that followed the Mangai or Hagah. To tell the stories of other Toa teams, not just the same 3 teams throughout the story.
>Mata/Nuva/Phantoka whatever
>Metru/Hordika
>Inika/Mahri
All the Toa teams were from the starting island in one way or another. So much wasted potential to let other teams shine and show off more of the expanded world.
>Inb4 no Toa Mangai year

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:25:41 No.10679303 Report

Quoted By: >>10679315

>>10679292
Backstory:
>Common worker suddenly becomes a Toa and has to cope and learn about his power
Motivation:
>Tasked to save the city by the last hero who then suddenly dissapeared, leaving you without guidance
The Metru Toa backstory and motivation can literally be described in one sentence each. I don't see why that is complex.
People just have boners for the Toa Mata because of the design and because they were the first. Simple as.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:28:52 No.10679310 Report

Quoted By: >>10679321 >>10679337

>>10679293
No, the original story described Makuta as a "jealous brother" who wanted the Matoran to worship him, and thus made Mata Nui fall asleep.
The original story never strayed away from that.
Makuta as a character was expanded, not replaced.
In his final moment with Makuta, Mata Nui thought of him as a brother.
I don't understand why anons are upset about Makuta not being the god of darkness but instead the prince of darkness, lucifer. A fallen angel. A demi-god who became jealous of the great spirit. It is literally the same as OG Makuta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:30:13 No.10679315 Report

Quoted By: >>10679335 >>10679349

>>10679303
That's just a generic premise for the whole team. Do that for each character. The Metru have way more convoluted character building and motivations. Which is interesting when you're reading the books. But just on the surface, they're less immediately iconic. None of the intricate details of their backstory or mission matter at all when it comes to understanding exactly who each of the Mata are. Their personalities are intuitive from the surface level, which leaves a stronger impression.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:31:13 No.10679321 Report

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>>10679310
Because the OG Makuta has a more godly feel to it, like a Greek God. While Teridax is more of a comic book/JRPG boss who wants to usurp God

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:34:39 No.10679335 Report

Quoted By: >>10679366

>>10679315
>Vakama
Insecure leader who learns to step up
>Nokama
Girl who likes unity
>Matau
Funny guy
>Nuju
Self-centred nerd
>Onewa
Sarcastic asshole
>Whenua
Dwarf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:36:00 No.10679337 Report

Quoted By: >>10679353

>>10679310
>"jealous brother" who wanted the Matoran to worship him
A description that comes from a campfire story; an unreliable narrator. I'm talking about the behind the scenes intent, which explains all his weird dialogue in Mask of Light. There is evidence to assume that Makuta fits into the biological metaphor as a manifestation of Mata Nui's nihilistic thoughts of depression, inspired by Faber's own sickness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:40:26 No.10679349 Report

Quoted By: >>10679378

>>10679315
It's really not possible to compare the Mata with the Metru
Mata:
>Started out as Toa, no backstory
>Multiple games to make the consumers familiar with them
>Movie
>Most of the comics
>Tons of supporting characters to interact with throughout their story

Metru:
>Backstory that dates back centuries, including a Matoran civil war that isn't being shown in any proper piece of media, forming the basis of why Le, Po, Ko and Ta, Ga, Onu matorans don't get along well
>The movie rushes through their lifes as Matorans, giving them not even a minute screentime each before they turn into Toa
>Movie jumps into action immediately, killing off the first and only real supporting character
>Each Toa only gets 1 matoran to interact with, while the Mata have a wide variety of each village that scream "Toa help!" all the time
>Toa Metru turn into old people just after 2 adventures, barely getting the amount of screentime as the Mata as heroes
Had the Metru not been the Turaga of Mata Nui, been given more side characters and side quests to become established with and had their story not been rushed so quickly ,the dystopian fantasy high-tech alien-robot city setting would have been much better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:42:10 No.10679353 Report

Quoted By: >>10679410

>>10679337
Well no one cares about that, anon.
While I know and agree that there's alot of metaphors in the first legend story, it really doesn't impact the lore, nor does it work for telling a longer story or establish a functioning universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:45:41 No.10679366 Report

Quoted By: >>10679400

>>10679335
>Vakama
Insecure leader who learns to step up
Becomes overconfident later on and eventually finds balance
>Nokama
Girl who likes unity
Mom of the team
>Matau
Funny guy
Becomes a dear friend of the leader and saves his ass from becoming a simp to the evil spider queen dommy mommy
>Nuju
Self-centred nerd
Gets eventually so stuck up with everyone else that he decides to only speak in Rahi-noises
>Onewa
Sarcastic asshole
Even more of an asshole later on
>Whenua
Dwarf
Nature nerd
(fixed it for you anon)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:47:16 No.10679376 Report

Quoted By:

Isolating the first three years in a vaccum, my headcanon is that the Great Beings created the Mask of Shadows just like any other mask for the Toa to use on their mission. The intent is that it can sense and remove one's inner darkness (a power that Makuta uses against the Toa on 2001) however, the mask is too powerful and inadvertently pulls the inner darkness from Mata Nui himself, creating Makuta. "My duty is to The Mask of Shadows." And so the GB's watching all this unfold from the Red Star create the Avohkii to clean up this mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:47:30 No.10679378 Report

Quoted By: >>10679677

>>10679349
Mata:
>Started out as Toa, no backstory
We learn their backstory in 2008
>Multiple games to make the consumers familiar with them
The main game, MNOG, barely features them
>Movie
Metru had two
>Most of the comics
Metru had them
>Tons of supporting characters to interact with throughout their story
Metru had the Great Disk Matoran and a rotating gallery of villains

Metru:
>Backstory that dates back centuries, including a Matoran civil war that isn't being shown in any proper piece of media, forming the basis of why Le, Po, Ko and Ta, Ga, Onu matorans don't get along well
Superfluous material that doesn't matter
>The movie rushes through their lifes as Matorans, giving them not even a minute screentime each before they turn into Toa
Their lives as Matoran don't matter besides explaining what skills they might have
>Movie jumps into action immediately, killing off the first and only real supporting character
Lhikan comes back in the B-plot
>Each Toa only gets 1 matoran to interact with, while the Mata have a wide variety of each village that scream "Toa help!" all the time
None of the Toa Mata interact with any Matoran exclusively besides Takua and Jaller
>Toa Metru turn into old people just after 2 adventures, barely getting the amount of screentime as the Mata as heroes
Most of their adventures happen in the novels and comics. Search for the Great Disks, Krahka, Tahtorak, Mavrah and the Great Barrier, Karzahni Plant, war against the Zivon, and the search for the Mask of Light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:49:58 No.10679388 Report

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>>10678735
maybe, don't remember

>>10678736
My research tells me they no longer have any exclusive right to any part of it except for design, so making it axle and ball joint compatible for example is a-ok.

>>10679095
danke anon. Honestly I didn't mean to talk so much about it, I was jusy quite tired last night, but I'm thankful it has had a positive reception. I'll shut my trap here now though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:53:19 No.10679400 Report

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>>10679366
>Onewa
>Even more of an asshole later on
He was the most vocal about challenging Vakama's overconfidence and bad leadership, and often comes up with alternative plans that involves his other teammates like getting Whenua to make a ramp over a whirlpool and helping Matau create a vacuum to beat a sound Rahi. Vakama discussed the possibility of Makuta being alive with him, and has strategy talks with him. During Time Trap, Vakama specifically mentioned that he left the Matoran in Onewa's hands. He was basically Vakama's right hand man

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:55:01 No.10679406 Report

Quoted By: >>10679420

>>10679286
Perhaps I didn't explain it clearly, my bad. Let me clarify:

In the hypothetical scenario where the 01'-03' storyline properly ended, I think they could have still kept going the series going.
However, instead of trying to tie it all back into being just a part of the 01' story (either as what came before or the continuation of what came after), I think it would have been more interesting or engaging to just create new, independent narratives that are just set in the world of Bionicle which aren't related to the events of the original storyline. The only unifying elements that would be needed at all is the influence of Makuta and Mata Nui in the background, with Makuta causing or influencing dark or destructive events and Mata Nui guiding people to find solutions to them.

>What would your ideal 2004 set lineup be and what would the story be?
I haven't thought of what I would've created instead so I'll give you two answers for that; one just reusing the original 04' sets and one with a original idea
>Repurposed
Dume is a formerly benevolent Turaga who has turned controlling and is forcing Matoran to do increasingly bizarre and laborious tasks; those who are dissident or uncooperative are abducted at night by Vahki and brainwashed into subservience. A group of Matoran (the six sets) create a secret underground rebel faction to try and oppose the Turaga and discover the truth and get more Matoran to safety. Among the Matoran they rescue are six individuals who were giving odd stones by a wandering warrior (Lihkan) who asked them to find a way to the Great Temple; they realize they were being attacked because they had those stones. With the help of the network, they manage to arrive at the Temple, where Mata Nui reaches out and rebuilds them into stronger energized forms via the power of the stones, turning them into Toa. Now working with the Matoran Rebels they must battle against the strange forces taking hold in the city and find the truth behind Dume.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 17:57:10 No.10679410 Report

Quoted By: >>10679688

>>10679353
>or establish a functioning universe.
In the early days the robot was just a robot. No stupid fucking island domes. The Matoran maintained the machine functions inside and crewed the whole thing like a ship. The GSR was an Ark that safeguarded a population of survivors from a dying world in stasis and the intent was to discover and terraform a new home. Before all the complexities of the Metru era and beyond, the functions of the universe were well established and Makuta fit into that just fine. Yes, things needed to change to keep the story going, but the intial premise was solid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 18:00:42 No.10679420 Report

Quoted By: >>10679444

>>10679406
>new, independent narratives that are just set in the world of Bionicle which aren't related to the events of the original storyline
Isn't the Metru Nui saga just that? Besides the Turaga being the Toa, it doesn't really tie into the original story much. Or at the very least, you can get easily change a few things to remove the 2001 influence

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 18:03:39 No.10679426 Report

Quoted By: >>10679445

>>10679293
He's not the dark side of Mata Nui, he's just his split opposite. They aren't one and the same, but they are two sides of the same coin: Creation and Destruction, Light and Dark, etc.
Makuta was envious that Mata Nui was heaped love and praise where he was not, because people cared more about the creation and building over the breaking down or repurposing, or didn't even think about him in that way at all and just gave him a wide berth because he was viewed as destruction, negative, when destruction (and Makuta) isn't inherently evil nor good but just is.
This is why they are 'Spirit Brothers' (even in the 2001 CDs he's called this, they aren't biologically connected, it's that their existences and purposes are linked) and why Makuta, jealous, cast Mata Nui into slumber in hopes of fulfilling his role and getting that same praise.
However as a being of destruction he cannot create, he can only corrupt or destroy, so not only was he unable to fulfill the same purpose it just made the Matoran worship Mata Nui even more.
In a sense the original version has an underlying level of tragedy to him, where even with what he is, no matter what he can never truly accomplish his goal because he will never be able to be what Mata Nui is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 18:12:14 No.10679444 Report

Quoted By: >>10679464

>>10679420
>Isn't the Metru Nui saga just that?
It starts out kind of like that, before Makuta's influence is revealed to be far far more in-depth than it looks on the surface and it ends up just turning the entire saga into a Prequal for 01'. I'm still quite fond of Metru Nui and the characters in it (even if I still prefer the Mata), but I would've liked if they just kept it it's own thing.
>At the very least, you can get easily change a few things to remove the 2001 influence
I agree with you; I even provided an example of it too to help illustrate that point. Some of the later waves wouldn't have been difficult to just rewrite into their own isolated stories that gave glimpses of the world either.

>>10679296
I'm glad, thanks
And I agree, it would've been cool to see other 'starting islands' as well, and explore more Toa or sides to the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 18:12:52 No.10679445 Report

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>>10679426
All of this can be true while ALSO fitting in the possibility that Makuta comes from Mata Nui in the same way that the Shadow Toa came from the Mata. Mata Nui was only able to awaken once his shadow had been cleansed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 18:19:59 No.10679464 Report

Quoted By: >>10679496 >>10679700

>>10679444
An easy rewrite for 2004 will be
>No Makuta, Turaga Dume is just a crazy dictator (probably influenced by Makuta's darkness) who ends up absorbing Krekka and Nidhiki
>No journey to Mata Nui, the Toa just want to wake up the Matoran so they travel around to find a cure
>Roodaka isn't a simp for Makuta. She just wanted to be the new Queen of the horde, but the horde refuses to follow their king's murderer so she gets killed by her own hubris
There, a story unrelated to Makuta and Mata Nui

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 18:22:07 No.10679472 Report

Quoted By: >>10679501

>>10673995
These animations were so cool I thought Vahki were as stronk as the 6 Mata Nui Rahhkshi or Bohrok Kal, then I read the comics and saw the movie...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 18:33:23 No.10679496 Report

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>>10679464(me)
As for a rewrite for 2006...
>No Makuta. Piraka only went to the island because they overheard there was treasure there from the Dark Hunters
>Remove Toa Nuva. Everything they go through happens to the Inika
>Toa Inika are a rookie Toa team that was sent to Voya Nui to capture the Piraka
>Inika don't originally know about the Ignika, since it wasn't part of their mission
>Axonn and Brutaka were the secret protectors of the island/Ignika, but Brutaka was too enamored by the Ignika that he ended up betraying Axonn
>Mask of Life was just a really powerful mask that has the ability to control life and death. Locked away in Voya Nui because it couldn't be destroyed
>The challenges were trying to ward the Toa/Piraka away instead of testing their character
>Vezon isn't a Piraka and has no relationship with Vezok. Just a crazed guardian of the mask like Umbra
>The mask doesn't fly off into Mahri Nui afterwards
A bit longer, but that should be decent enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 18:35:24 No.10679501 Report

Quoted By: >>10679706

>>10679472
To be fair, they were created to control the Matoran, not to combat Toa

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 19:02:15 No.10679548 Report

Quoted By: >>10679563

>>10678689
I liked Hahli when she was a shy cute autistic girl in MNOLG II, didn't much care for the stacy version in the movie or the typical Greg female character she was as a toa

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 19:13:37 No.10679563 Report

Quoted By: >>10679587

>>10679548
Did she even have a personality in MNOG2? I thought she was just a silent protagonist like Takua in MNOG

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 19:24:48 No.10679587 Report

Quoted By: >>10679636

>>10679563
Yes she spoke in II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70b21zh3Gag&list=PLJrRgZU-C99bfZ15dyNNMx6zAze2-y8WW
Fuck looking at old walktrough I found the game really was nothing but go grind bunch of crap, like mmo fetch quest tier. At least it still had great visuals

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 19:42:47 No.10679636 Report

Quoted By:

>>10679587
>How do you know so much about kolhii?
>I visit Hewkii in Po-Koro every now and then.
>He's the best kolhii player in all of Mata Nui!
>We spend a lot of time together... playing kolhii of course!
I don't care what Greg says love will never not be canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 20:00:47 No.10679666 Report

Quoted By: >>10679711

>>10666666
witnessed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 20:09:13 No.10679677 Report

Quoted By: >>10680183

>>10679378
>"Superfluous material that doesn't matter"
>"Most of their adventures happen in the novels and comics."
Could you just pick one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 20:12:37 No.10679688 Report

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>>10679410
I think you overthink the "island domes" a bit too much.
All of the sea is protodermis, which serves as the bodily liquid.
Metru Nui being the brain, swims in the head of the GRS.
The other islands form other organs for the GRS. Maybe a bit weirdly distributed, but they still have functions.
This was all done by the same writers by the way, they clearly had a vision of where they wanted to take it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 20:17:27 No.10679700 Report

Quoted By: >>10680186

>>10679464
Why do Krekka and Nidhiki need to die?! Wtf man

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 20:20:01 No.10679706 Report

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>>10679501
By Matoran, for Matoran.
Considering their abilities, they are still pretty powerful though.
Also, they work in swarms, like Bohrok. If they aren't strong enough for a single adversary, they will just try to outnumber them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 20:21:44 No.10679711 Report

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>>10679666
Holy Gadunka

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 21:24:41 No.10679834 Report

Quoted By: >>10681731

Hi, I've been outta the fandom for a couple years; has anybody made an improved moc of Artakha yet, one that proportionally fits the art closer and is more stable?
I was working on one myself at the time (still have the file), and got really close to finishing, but I got stuck at the feet and lower legs, and then got caught up with college and hadn't had time to return to it since.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 21:45:49 No.10679878 Report

Quoted By: >>10682264

>>10678699
>>10678734
Do you make your own models? The ones exported from Stud.io, or even mask packs aren't high quality enough if you are going to try to use those CNC.

I've spoken a bit to the seller on Aliexpress. Basically the original provider of the Hau and Kraahkan models was asking for $60 per model file, so he declined to make anymore masks as that's too expensive for him, combined with the cost of making the molds

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 00:55:55 No.10680176 Report

Quoted By:

>700 posts
>not even on page 10 yet
you bionicle autists really are something

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 00:59:56 No.10680183 Report

Quoted By:

>>10679677
You can read the novels and comics to learn more about the characters. You don't need to know about the Matoran Civil War since that's just an extended backstory that doesn't impact the main plot or the character relationships

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 01:01:43 No.10680186 Report

Quoted By: >>10680203 >>10680250

>>10679700
Krekka and Nidhiki really don't accomplish much before dying. The most they did was capture Lhikan. You could easily just replace them with some Vahki enforcers and nothing would change

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 01:22:18 No.10680203 Report

Quoted By: >>10680220

>>10680186
>You could easily just replace them with some Vahki enforcers and nothing would change
such a soulless way to parse a setting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 01:37:00 No.10680220 Report

Quoted By: >>10680334

>>10680203
Then fucking let them do something else besides acting like Dume/Makuta's goons. They're part of a rival third faction, the least you can do is give them a different goal like stealing the great disks or something. But instead, all they do is chase Vakama, Nokama and Matau around a bit and then they die

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 02:02:20 No.10680250 Report

Quoted By: >>10680294

>>10680186
Sure glad you never got or get to write anything that is canon. You got terrible taste anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 02:26:02 No.10680294 Report

Quoted By: >>10680334 >>10680571

>>10680250
I'm not saying that I want to replace them with Vahki, I'm just saying that you could and there wouldn't be much would change. The most Nidhiki did was when he was doing backroom deals with Akhmou, but that wasn't part of the main movie plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 02:52:58 No.10680334 Report

Quoted By: >>10680379

>>10680220
>>10680294
These are fair criticisms, anon, I just don't like it is all. It feels just a bit of a boring way to view it. But it's fair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 03:00:26 No.10680345 Report

Quoted By: >>10680395

You know, I feel the story was just fine, it just needed more expanding on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 03:20:36 No.10680379 Report

Quoted By: >>10680391

>>10680334
If you enjoy Nidhiki and Krekka, then Birth of a Dark Hunter is a much better use of them as characters. Nidhiki being a self-serving traitor who believes he's in the right for ending a war through duplicitous actions, his hatred of Lhikan and his concept of justice, and how neither the Toa nor the Dark Hunters really want him there. Even Krekka is a much better character since he's written as this bumbling dumbass who forgets his own skills, but is put as Nidhiki's partner since he's so stupidly loyal to the Shadowed One that Nidhiki never has a chance to betray him. It was a really good use of their characters and I wish they got that level of love in 2004 itself.
>No one spoke of a word of mourning for the Toa who had just died ... and no one spoke a word of welcome for the Dark Hunter that had just been born

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 03:25:39 No.10680391 Report

Quoted By: >>10680404

>>10680379
>neither the Toa nor the Dark Hunters really want him there
Lariska might have been the only one who wanted him around

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 03:28:47 No.10680395 Report

Quoted By: >>10680428

>>10680345
I'm reading through 2006 now, and I just noticed how blindingly fast the story is going. Only five chapters in and the Matoran Resistance has already been formed, Jaller already found out the Toa Nuva have gone missing, and the Zamor Launchers are already complete and ready to brainwash all of the Voyatoran.
Greg's character writing has also gone down a cliff, which sucks because the Metru years was very good at giving each character their own unique voice. I'd say he can write, at best, two or three characters for each team while everyone else just sounds samey. But I mainly attribute that to character bloat than anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 03:33:35 No.10680404 Report

Quoted By: >>10680417

>>10680391
Personally not a fan of Lariska. She's too close to Roodaka that it sometimes feels like Greg just wants to reuse her but can't because Roodaka's dead/loyal to Makuta. Sure, she has her own tics like her inability to stand still and the fact that she says she's going to betray and murder the Shadowed One right in front of his face, but she still has the same "totally in control of the situation, looks down upon you" kind of tone Roodaka had. The fact that Nidhiki had two separate night meetings with Lariska and Roodaka where he planned to betray his current team to join the evil girl really didn't help

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 03:41:45 No.10680417 Report

Quoted By: >>10680435

>>10680404
now that you mention it, a nice little contrast between her and Roodaka is that Roodaka ratted Nidhiki out without a second thought, meanwhile Lariska:
>The only other problem left over from the Toa-Dark Hunter war was Nidhiki himself. Despite Lariska’s insistence that neither she nor the ex-Toa were responsible for the defeat, she was punished severely and Nidhiki was shunned.
Considering what we know of her character and that Nidhiki costed the Dark Hunters their victory, it's a miracle she didn't kill him herself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 03:49:50 No.10680428 Report

Quoted By: >>10680454

>>10680395(me)
What I'm trying to say is that the story itself is good, but it needed more time in the oven. Hope is a good one-shot that really expands on the Voyatoran and a day in their miserable lives on Voya Nui, so I'll happily accept it as canon. And Legacy of Evil did a great job to make the Piraka more unique characters, even if it had more Lariska-wanking.
The only problem are the Inika themselves, but that's mostly because even as Matoran, they're remembered more for their roles than their personalities. Why is Hewkii, an athlete, joining Jaller on his quest to look for the Toa Nuva? His original personality as a guy who doesn't trust his accuracy was already gone by the time MNOG rolled around, so he just disappears into the background when surrounded by other competent, quippy heroes like Kongu and Hahli. Even Nuparu didn't really have much to build compared to Avak since his role as an engineer wasn't really that useful in a life-or-death race against the clock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 03:52:02 No.10680435 Report

Quoted By: >>10680497

>>10680417
My personal headcanon is that killing Nidhiki is just too much effort for too little reward. She can kill him any time she wants, so might as well keep him around for the company

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 04:17:47 No.10680454 Report

Quoted By: >>10680462

>>10680428
i can only guess that the reason they were chosen instead of the chroniclers company is because they all got sets, while maku is the only one of the cc who got sets asides from takua
as for why hahli was chosen instead of maku, i can only guess it's because of greg's autism against romance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 04:26:36 No.10680462 Report

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>>10680454
Considering Jaller x Hahli is also a very popular ship, I'm gonna assume Hahli was chosen because she was just a more important character after MNOG. She had her own game, appeared in the Bohrok animations, and was a side character in MOL. She was basically the Ga-Matoran rep for the past few years

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 05:10:32 No.10680497 Report

Quoted By: >>10680500

>>10680435
they were totally fucking

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 05:16:50 No.10680500 Report

Quoted By: >>10680511

>>10680497
Do you think they kept fucking after Nidhiki turned into a spider?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 05:43:31 No.10680511 Report

Quoted By:

>>10680500
very likely

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 06:34:28 No.10680571 Report

Quoted By: >>10680577 >>10681111

>>10680294
Fuck the movies, all of those were boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 06:49:10 No.10680577 Report

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>>10680571
They were fine for what they were. It was pretty annoying not seeing them use many elemental attacks or mask powers until the climax, though

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Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 10:48:33 No.10680715 Report

Quoted By: >>10680720

Lightstone Fikou adventures continue!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 10:53:46 No.10680720 Report

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>>10680715
look at him go

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 14:11:42 No.10680913 Report

Quoted By: >>10680970

>>10670447
The phase has like 70 submissions to go trough as opposed to the usual 30-50, that's why it's taking so long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 14:56:41 No.10680970 Report

Quoted By: >>10681059

>>10680913
>trough

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 15:25:24 No.10681009 Report

Quoted By: >>10681029 >>10681227 >>10681230

A part of me is convinced that I probably dont even want to know because whenever I look up something about bionicle lore the actual answer turns out to be boring fanfiction trash without fail, but how did Nidhiki actually become the monster that he appears as on screen if he used to be a regular metru build Toa before? Not a single other character off the top of my head has followed the same precedent where they can mutate into something completely unrecognizable outside of Mahri Nui. I guess theres also the hordika venom but you literally see toa hordika and they dont even come close to resembling nidhiki either in looks or how they act/ their mental state

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 15:40:13 No.10681029 Report

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>>10681009
Remember how the Hagah became Rahaga? Pretty much that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 16:05:49 No.10681059 Report

Quoted By: >>10681099

>>10680970
All the way trough your ass and out of the mouth

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 16:28:18 No.10681099 Report

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>>10681059
you wish, fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 16:36:11 No.10681111 Report

Quoted By: >>10681149 >>10681181

>>10680571
Hot take: Web of Shadows is the best one. The directing and atmosphere is just way more interesting to look at than any of the others. Plus, focusing hard on Vakama and the villain being right out there in the open from the start makes the plot more digestible.

I've always hated Legends of Metru Nui. I can't really pinpoint exactly why. It's just meandering and overly convenient and slow and edited really fucking weirdly. Plus Vakama just annoys the shit out of me in that movie.

Mask of Light is iconic and fun, but being the first there are some weird growing pains and pacing issues.

And Legend Reborn is Legend Reborn.

The more I think about it, the more I find myself liking Web of Shadows best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 17:05:41 No.10681149 Report

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>>10681111
Agreed. WoS is still the best one in my eyes. LoMN got knocked down plenty of pegs for me for a number of reasons, one of the biggest being the complete ignoring of the Morbuzakh and the way Dume/Makuta shot the Toa down at the Colosseum over the Great Disks, and nobody felt fit to even bring the fact they saved the island up. Could have at the very least had it be part of the Great Disk montage and have them then try explaining it, only to have Makuta make up some shit on the fly about how "I heard differently and it was our Vahki protectors that eliminated the threat" or some shit. Anything. Just the total writeoff of that entire arc of the 04 story annoyed me and it only made less and less sense as years went by.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 17:24:49 No.10681181 Report

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>>10681111
>the villain being right out there in the open
It is weird how 3 out of the 4 movies have a mysterious villain that hides in the shadows until the very end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 17:52:08 No.10681227 Report

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>>10681009
i'm pretty sure the answer was very clearly given even way back then; when Nidihiki betrayed his allies to join the dark hunters The Shadowed One had him mutated into the freak he is now to ensure he could never go back. If you're specifically asking for 'how', TSO had him mutated by Roodaka. Unlike the Rahagah though, who were turned into weak and diminutive forms, Nidhiki was just transformed into an visual horror show that was still plenty capable of being strong since he was still going to be serving the dark hunters and TSO didn't want the employment of a cripple. He just needed to be a visual billboard that would signal to everyone "I'm probably going to stab you in the back if you trust me".

And if you're asking why then he'd also bother putting Krekka with him as insurance so that if he ever did attempt a double cross Krekka will immediately kill him, well one, further reinforcement to ensure subservience (so he doesn't either attempt to cop a deal with another non-toa faction or just strike out alone and/or bungle his mission deliberately out of spite) and two The Shadowed One is the kind of person who when he suspects someone of being a traitor sends him on a mission to the people he thinks he's working for, sends a second guy to spy on the traitor and then sent a third guy to spy on them both.
I would say he's less paranoid and more very thorough. Especially given the people who he's working with. If you're gonna make a point might as well go all the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 17:58:52 No.10681230 Report

Quoted By: >>10681313

>>10681009
Is it so hard to look up Nidhiki's Biosector page? Fucking hell, lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Oct 2023 19:14:05 No.10681313 Report

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>>10681230
In all fairness, if you haven't had enough experience with it to check the cite notes so as to distinguish stuff that really happened from Greg q&a horseshit, it's usually safer just to ask.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 01:29:21 No.10681731 Report

Quoted By: >>10681926

>>10679834
Bumpo?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 03:49:00 No.10681926 Report

Quoted By: >>10681962

>>10681731
>745th post
>Bumpo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 04:15:50 No.10681962 Report

Quoted By: >>10682010 >>10682024

>>10681926
Bumping my QUESTION, not the thread, stupid idiot baka numpty double moron BLEHH

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 04:50:14 No.10682010 Report

Quoted By: >>10682273

>>10681962
not to be autistic about it but why wouldn't you just design your own artakha? the "canon" moc contest version of artakha is awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 04:55:14 No.10682024 Report

Quoted By:

>>10681962
>legs
2006/2007 titan build ez
>mask
Golden or silver hau/vahi
You are welcome

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 05:01:54 No.10682031 Report

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Perfectly capturing the cringe of the Bionicle community. This is the kind of completely autistic representstion we deserve. Bless Cuckbricks.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 05:03:15 No.10682033 Report

Quoted By: >>10682398 >>10683078

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 05:04:47 No.10682036 Report

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 05:06:12 No.10682038 Report

Quoted By: >>10682039 >>10682247 >>10682264 >>10682398 >>10682628 >>10683078

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 05:07:17 No.10682039 Report

Quoted By:

>>10682036
>>10682038
Me when.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 09:02:53 No.10682247 Report

Quoted By:

>>10682038
>>10682036
Foul

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 09:45:12 No.10682264 Report

Quoted By:

>>10679878
Looking for an update on this as I am very interested
>>10682038
>>10682036
Ewww, anyways one image left so new threas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 10:00:32 No.10682273 Report

Quoted By:

>>10682010
I like the art ;-;

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 14:43:46 No.10682398 Report

Quoted By: >>10682426

>>10682033
That’s really cool

>>10682036
>>10682038
And it’s ruined by that weird goop
Why is it there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 15:09:48 No.10682426 Report

Quoted By: >>10682779

>>10682398
The challenge was to make a volcano that erupts and makes use of flowing lava somehow.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 18:05:53 No.10682628 Report

Quoted By:

>>10682036
>>10682038

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 19:29:38 No.10682779 Report

Quoted By:

>>10682426
Yeah well they did it in the most ass way possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 22:45:59 No.10683078 Report

Quoted By: >>10683238

>>10682033
>>10682036
>>10682038
>We referenced bionicle!
>Why aren't you happy, bionicle fans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 23:26:45 No.10683143 Report

Quoted By: >>10683173

>760 posts
Jesus Christ, what the fuck did I miss??

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Oct 2023 23:54:17 No.10683173 Report

Quoted By: >>10683200

>>10683143
Nothing but terror-sperging, the usual

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Oct 2023 00:10:41 No.10683194 Report

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>>10673589
Man Eliminator really is a top tier Dark Hunter, to think there are members that can outmatch him like TSO or Darkness tells how powerful that fucking organization is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Oct 2023 00:12:21 No.10683200 Report

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>>10683173
Not even the Hoserlyx TTV votation had this much replies, the sperg and his shitty revamps outmatched that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Oct 2023 00:53:42 No.10683238 Report

Quoted By: >>10685005

>>10683078
It's not Bionicle! It's the JUNGLE BASTION OF THE SUN. Totally not Bionicle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Oct 2023 00:58:57 No.10683245 Report

Quoted By: >>10684643

new bread:

>>10683244
>>10683244
>>10683244

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Oct 2023 22:39:10 No.10684643 Report

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>>10683245
Nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Oct 2023 02:26:50 No.10685005 Report

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>>10683238
That sounds like a a bootleg, and more fitting than Invincibility Soldier or whatever

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