>>11221385The two ad hominem attacks in that post plus the previous one invalidated his own argument, because in the end his argument was "you interpreted it wrong because you're a Protestant, and no matter what, you would complain because you are a psychotic prot." It was obvious that he wasn't interested in discussing scripture or a scholarly debate about its meaning. I'm not wasting my time on someone like that.
Yes, the literal translation is morning star, but it's not unanimous what that passage was referring to (scholars aren't even 100% sure of which Babylonian king it is in reference to), and like I had previously said, some modern scholars believe that the use of Lucifer in that passage was deliberately translated that way to parallel the Babylonian king's fall with The Adversary's fall from grace.
As for Luce being an actual girl's name, I knew a girl called Lumina. There is a Star Wars character name Luminara.
Seriously, when you say Lucifer to someone, what do you think their first thought is? That one time in John that Jesus was called Lucifer, or the well known name for the devil that is used in the vast majority of media and pop culture thanks to Divine Comedy and Paradise Lost?
Do you remember the false rumour that the telescope on Mt Graham was named Lucifer by the Vatican? Now how long do you think it will take your average Joe make the same connection? It's not like the Vatican has an issue with optics as it is.
Anyway, I've put in a lot of effort to defend my original shitpost, and I will continue to double down that an organisation that shields pedos from justice and is accused of being satanic probably shouldn't let faggots design their mascots and then give them a name that is similar to Helel's commonly known name.
Have a Luce for being civil.