Could a Mighty Max revival work today? The factor that Mattel is doing stuff like a Stranger Things Polly Pocket collab shows they're doing PP playsets based on action-oriented IPs and the upcoming Jurassic World 4 toys are going to feature micro-playsets so Mattel might be taking small steps to test the waters.
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You read the news today too?
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>>11349998 >>11349999 >>11350000 Cool. But reminds me more of the Godzilla Micro Playsets.
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>>11349961 Cant work today. It will be too nostalgia rooted. That means lower production numbers, means expensive for a relative small toy.
Polly Pocket was not really away. Some hiatus but not long like Mighty Max.
So you need an IP to move the numbers needed.
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Problem is that the main appeal of the playsets was how detailed and edgy they were (Mainly the Doom Zones and larger playsets IE Skull Island and Dragon Island) which would be hard to do in this day and age.
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>>11349961 >Could a Mighty Max revival work today? No. Even the Ghostbusters flopped.
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>>11350268 >Even the Ghostbusters flopped. You mean the toys?
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>>11349961 If they brought it back it wouldn't be as good.
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>>11349998 Oh man, that waterfall cave goes crazy. That shit is my favorite aesthetic.
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>>11350750 >Wobble head chibis >muscle mini head Weird!
>>11350264 I agree. The costs to make them would be eating too much profit. They are out for a guarenteed selling, not gambling on pure nostalgia!
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>>11350175 Why can't make it appeal to kids? Make new designs and a new show
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>>11350268 Ghostbusters flopped because of covid. All of the figures sold when they hit ollies. The demand is there
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>>11350850 Dont get me wrong it is appealing to kids. But the market is oversaturated with toys. Let alone the competition of videogames, social media and Ipads.
Let alone the price will reject parents.
So you need to invest money and time. Which will not happen, so they will make a Jurassic World playset or a Mr Beast instead.
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>>11349961 >>11350930 I know what i would do, there is a certain campaign you could do. But overwl i dont see that it really succeed to spring a big hype.
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>>11350160 Here comes a new challenger.
This company also is making a few Mighty Max inspired sets under the name "Rover Robin". Definitely more aimed at collectors over kids but still neat.
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>>11350175 What about collector's sets based on the show adaptations?
Or go "fuck it" and make an Origins-style figure line.
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>>11350972 Why? I never cared for mighty max characters, I only like the toys it made
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>>11350978 Some of the characters would make decent figures, especially if they use their grungy toy designs.
Still the playsets were the focus of the original line.
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>>11349961 >all this paint and unique tooling. nah it’d never work today unfortunately
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>>11350938 I looked it up. Thats the Taiwanese madlad. He really stepped up his game. He produced and planned alot. Great for him.
Is it really a company and not a Garage Kit/Toy manufacturer?
But they are not cheap. $89 and $49 are expensive for Doomzones. And i hope this thread isnt just a stealth advertismemt thread!
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>>11350938 Show pics of those anon
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>>11350972 Collector route can work. Look at Nacelle or Super7 who revived old series.
Origin-style figure line? Depends on what it means. Actionfigures? I dont think so. Collectable minifigures, can work in my eyes. But it should be heavy on monsters than heroic characters, because i dont think you have that many who heavily care about the cartoon characters.
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>>11351450 Why? I found them just by internet search. Or is this just a secret advertisment and you try to create a reason to post your pics?
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>>11350938 >"Rover Robin" He got scared Mattem might try to sue him after he claimed he had purchased some foreign rights to Mighty Max. So he decided the line was an homage with a new character.
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>>11351468 >Nacelle or Super7 Both failing companies with product that hits Ollies and Ross
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>>11351719 They still seems to stay afloat. Or do they constantly call Chapter 7 constantly?
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>>11351472 Whatever dude, I googled it, no need to be a dick.
How do they have balls to use MM in their toys? Is Mattel involved? Also, fuck it, they look cool
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>>11352124 Sorry, i dislike pure advertisment threads. Than i feel used.
And the head of this project bought the name rights for Asia or Taiwan. So he can use it.
I think we discussed this in an pld MM thread how grey that area is. And since than he seems to use the Rover Robin name for the newer sets instead.
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>>11350904 Covid cope again huh
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>>11352125 Fuck man, this set does everything right
>Perfect size; appears to have a satisfying heft and texture >Every inner and most outer surfaces are used for detail, texture and easter eggs for playset mode, same for collapsed mode >Separate “rooms” using the head as a distinct chamber from the body >Additional rooms/floors available for imaginative play using vertical space >Thickly-molded stairs on the flooring segment lead up to subtly-molded, painted ladders on the upright shell for a sense of continuity between one area and another >Tasteful asymmetry of one lizard arm separating into wall/flooring while the other doesn’t, playing into the rest of the sets apparent organic+prosthetic reptile them >Inner surface of thighs used for more detail as sewer grating, seems to even use the hollow-space of the mold’s interior to convey dark tunnels behind the grates >Tail separates to become a giant mutant leech, with the lizard’s scaly texture and spikes serving as a different sort of skin for the invertebrate >Not one, but THREE instances of creatures/characters packed into the closed set blending into the lizard’s elements: eyes are giant slugs, cyborg buzzsaw lizard is one set of spines, knife-wielding mutant is another set of spines >Four instances, if you count the lizard’s finger, which is also an action gimmick for some sort of grapple >Some kind of mounted or sentry blaster at the top provides an enemy’s “last stand” perch for the hero to reach for a standoff >Timebomb in the head chamber can be something to escape from, or an objective to reach to destroy the lair, or both >Random chemical spills, wiring/pipes, computer terminals, and skeletal remains throughout the set can each be minor background flair you subconsciously ignore, or a very relevant hazard or “plot point” during play >The more you look, the more you find, I couldn’t even see the slash marks on walls until I zoomed in This is why I loved MM toys
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>>11350930 >>11350933 Just looking at those picrels made remember I had way too many MM sets as a kid, and they did not keep a kid’s interest for very long.hm082
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>>11353937 You get it, especially that bit for the integration
>>11354731 I'm sorry you don't get it, anon. Had tons of fun with mine, the two favorites being the Palace of Poison and Skull Mountain(with VHS of first episode). Every time I played, it all had something happen that looped the poor bastard back to the start of the play so he'd be ready to experience the hell all over again.
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>>11354800 >ready to experience the hell all over again. This is how existence works.
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Just re-release the old sets. That's what I want.
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>>11352124 They own the trademark because idiotic Mattel let it expire
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>>11354731 Happens with alot of toys or boardgames. Thats why i would revive them with a bottom hatched or hole to use the sets as wall decoration.
Amd give it a latter or bridge to combine them into a big stage.
>>11354800 Mighty mAx set really are like videogame levels.
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>>11350904 It flopped because the characters were androgynous and not on cocaine. A large part of the Ghostbusters' franchise appeal was overt masculinity, femininity, and high-energy hijinks.
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>>11354731 The Magus set was perfect because you got all the protagonists and it all folded back up into Magus, an oversized action figure. The mountain/alligator was obnoxiously big and I was scared of it as a kid. Not the theme-- the sheer size of the damn thing.
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>>11357649 You mean Dragon Island!
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Cheap toys today would be nice.
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They mentioned it when they brought back Street Sharks. Something like "these are the ones we get the most requests for". So they know theres a desire.
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>>11359283 PixelDan asked mattel rep at polly pocket stand about MM and they said they know it's requested but they can't comment on it.
Polly Pocket is a hit so I'm surprised it takes so long for MM to return.
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>>11357649 I got Skull Mountain when I was 8 and loved it, why would a kid be scared of a big toy? Those are the ones everyone wanted!
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>>11359814 What's your point here, that the thing is amazing and any kid would have wanted it?
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>>11357649 >oversized action figure >obnoxiously big >sheer size Anon, are you a dwarf or something? Neither Magus not Dragon Island/Skull Mountain are that big, not even by a kid's standards. I had plenty of robot toys bigger than them.
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>>11360231 My point is, how many functions that playset has!
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>>11360293 Shame that the really cheaped out on paint compared to the Doom Stones and Horror Heads. The interior walls are full of detail that is just lost in a sea of red. Sometimes I thought of painting it myself.
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Pixel Dan spoke with a Mattel representative about Mighty Max when he looked at the new Polly Pocket sets. They told him that they can't talk about it and know people want Mighty Max. A good sign?
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>>11360401 Pixel Dan is great, he covers all the toys. Unlike Robo Don't Know.
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>>11360372 You are right. Had to search for a picture that shows that.
Clearly a cost factor.
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>>11360401 Don’t give me hope like this…
Polly pocket is going hard these days though I really do hope they revamp mighty max.
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>>11360632 Forgot pic. If they can do half as good with mighty max they can have my credit card.
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>>11360632 They did put out those Muscle figures recently, which they did with Street Sharks right before putting out new figures, which shows Mattel is interested in keeping the IP alive.
>>11350750 I would imagine they're aware of those new playsets trying to revive the franchise:
>>11352125 And Rob Paulsen a few years ago expressed that he'd like a Mighty Max revival. So, it's never been a better time for a revival or some nostalgia reissue.
https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/mighty-max-original-voice-actor-suggests-its-time-for-a-comeback/ >“I did a show years ago that I liked a LOT called Mighty Max,” Paulsen reminisced. “That was a really, really excellent show. Tim Curry, Richard Moll, Tony Jay, and yours truly as the main characters. It was dark [and] pretty intense.” Anonymous
>>11360656 I am not so sure that a Mighty Max revival will happen. Especially now with the price increase in plastic toys.
That means you have to pay $60 for a doomzone.
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>>11362272 I’d pay $60 for a doomzone.
Hell, I’d pay $25 a pop for a horror head at this point.
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>>11362277 What? Thats crazy for such a small modern toy thats just a playset.
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>>11362364 A vintage Doom Zone on eBay is going to run you at least $75 and your chance of damage or missing parts is almost 100 percent.
Horror heads vary but are between 15-30+ and again rarely complete and if they are you’ll pay out the ass.
>>11351439 Is 50 goodboibucks. They make a horror head for $19.99 or $24.99 I’ll definitely bite.
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>>11362372 I wouldnt buy that for that. But vintage is different than factory new.
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>>11350175 there are some TMNT ones on the market rn too. polly pocket's returned aswell.
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>>11362372 just because that's what vintage goes for now does not mean that's what a new replica should go for. one does not correlate in any way to the value of the other.
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>>11359283 Does anyone else find it concerning there were no further Street Shark reveals this past NYTF?
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I've written about this before. First off, I love Mighty Max. I seem to always have preface that in this day and age as I'm about to be critical of something I love, doesn't mean I hate it, I actually understand.
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>>11363592 I mostly agree although I think it had some unique things going for it in the cartoon that appealed to fans at the time so that we would remember it more than a lot of other lines that faded in our memories more than MM did. But those elements were say characters, voice acting performances, or environments/gimmicks, not the overall plot. I don't even really remember what the reason they were going through portals and world hopping in the cartoon. To stop Skull Master from doing ... something? Being unsealed from Skull Mountain or something? Then again a lot of cartoons back then were more about the episodic journey than the end goal, as most never got proper 'endings' from my memory.
I do think that some things should just remain in the past and not try to be brought back, and MM is probably one of those things. The doom zones were good fun and had some cool designs and opportunities for kids to play with them. But the property doesn't need to be restrung for a modern audience and to simultaneously try to appeal to the nostalgia of past fans.
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>>11363793 It had a lot of unique things going for it. Which is what I was underling as a hard sell. It really did not have a strong overall plot. It was villain of the week, for next to no reason. A little bit stronger than power rangers bad vs evil. The elements of Norman are great. The ending to the MM cartoon was brilliant, but also would have been a great way to connect back to the pilot. Imagine the next episode is the first again, but now when Virgil tells Max he's the chosen one, he immediately accepts and even tells Virgil what is going to happen next. You don't get rich inventive story telling like this in other cartoons, I know that's a fan theory, but it was set up by component writers.
I think MM could get a little relaunch, it never had the hungry loud fans of say Street Sharks. Which is such a just, bland TMNT ripoff. MM is just more genre bending and that does immediately connect to people. I think it get a little revival, but I bet it would not last like how Polly Pocket is doing.
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>>11364224 At least SS is easy to bring back due to it's simplicitiy to the the point that if Mattel plays their cards right, a full scale SS revival like all-ages toyline and show a la CGI MOTU (Keep Kevin Smith the fuck away from it though) COULD work, especially given how Ninja Turtles has become a clusterfuck and Power Rangers in on life-support.
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The problem with Mighty Max and I've also posted it in MM threads before is that it couldn't compete. When it came out, it filled a niche that didn't exist with micro figures and playsets so of course it was successful, kids loved the dinosaurs, aliens, monsters and robots themes. But when other toy companies realized micro playsets were a thing they started doing their own micro playsets based off actual licenses, Spider-Man, X-Men, Batman, Power Rangers, TMNT, Star Wars, Godzilla, etc. Every line had a micro playset line. MM just couldn't compete. Sure it had a cartoon but in my experience many people who watched the cartoon didn't know about the toys and vice-versa those who bought the toys didn't necessary watched the cartoon so they killed the line.
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>>11364847 >I think a new MM line would likely fail to be as impressive as the original sets, less gimmicks and less figures per doom zone. Not only that but it would be sanitized as fuck, removing all the gruesome details and edge of it.
Best it could happen to the franchise is aiming it at collector's releasing the old molds and finally giving the cartoon a home media release.
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>>11364860 >>11364847 I'm sick of people being negative on MM getting a reboot. It could work, and work really well, if they had the balls to do it.
The Taiwan guy's psuedo reboot is looking great, people were annoyed at the first tiny sets but now that he's expanded into larger things they look pretty incredible. The squid one and evil doctor in particular look killer, and the large croc and deer cult sets look very fun. And this is with someone making new sets in more or less exactly the same format.
If Mattel were to make some slight changes to make things fit more into the current toy landscape you could:
- have blind box mini sets with a hero and villain with a different shell each wave (like the motu minis that had a grayskull case, a snake mountain case etc)
- have some gross out elements with a certain sku of heads that have things like slime or sand ala moose toys
- primary sets are planned with repaints in mind. A single horror head should have 3 planned releases, a doom zone at least 2. The key to keep them interesting? Alternate Minifigures and maybe some key parts that plug into the set being different. Since everything is so small it would be very easy to get a large variety of things into molds that you could parse out over time to keep shells feeling fresh.
Stuff like this would absolutely work, in combination with brand nostalgia it would at least enough to get a few years worth of releases out of it.
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Dan brings it up around 10:14:
https://youtu.be/rUI6c6hPaKo?si=_KydKEU3XgnyrzCW So, as mentioned earlier regarding MM Muscle figures, Mattel might be planning something, or gauging interest.
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>>11362272 I just paid $150 for two Doom Zones in order to piece together one minty and conplete example of the Skull Dungeon. If I could have gotten one for $60-80 on Mattel Creations, I would have.
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>>11364872 >I'm sick of people being negative on MM getting a reboot. It could work, and work really well, if they had the balls to do it. > if they had the balls to do it. But that's exactly the problem, they don't. In this day and age, that level of violence is not going to happen on a children's product. You're not going to get toys with blood splatters, body horror and corpses, or a cartoon where they actually kill good guys. MM without that edge completely loses what made it so unique and fun and the reason some of us still have fond memories of it. People are not being negative, they're being realistic.
>>11364872 >The Taiwan guy's psuedo reboot is looking great, people were annoyed at the first tiny sets but now that he's expanded into larger things they look pretty incredible. Can't say I competely agree. They're not bad but just feel off to me, like they're missing some of the charm and design philosophy of the originals. I can't help but notice the knockoffish vibes.
All in all I loved MM as a child, still consider the toys and show to be amazing, and still own every single of my sets with all their accesories (pic related), but it's not something I NEED to see having a return. Not everything needs to be brought back, even more so when the new thing is pretty much guaranteed to be inferior to the original, as in this case.
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>>11364934 >> if they had the balls to do it. >But that's exactly the problem, they don't. Exactly. We're all being positive about what we love about MM and pointing out what companies like mattel don't want to touch anymore. We'll get some monster or alien thing that's pretty tame. Like a re-release of pic related could happen, but the red on the mammoth tusks will be gone. We won't get the zombie/skeleton stuff. We can already bet they don't do dinosaurs since mattel is doing jurassic world miniatures.
Not on that, I highly doubt they'll put in the maximum effort of the line to begin with. The detailed molds, the comics, the art. All of this stuff that was common place in the 90's. Mattel dragged ass on he-man for years till they finally realized there's something there. It's characters though. MM doesn't have that. It was very derivative ripping off movies. Which was fine, I love Frankenstein. Anyone can make a mini frakenstein set though, why does MM need to be in it?
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>>11364860 >finally giving the cartoon a home media release it's insane that this hasn't even hit streaming. even freaking The New Scooby Doo Mysteries got an official streaming release.
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>>11363592 Mighty Max was always adventures. The uniqueness was the hat and that he fight monsters of the week. With Skullmaster being the one bigger endboss.
What you describe is a good point. But it feels like it isnt necessarily the reason it was discontinued.
Otherwise Power Rangers or Indiana Jones would fail too.
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>>11364847 I guess the costs for microplaysets are just too high. All the engeneering, sculpting and assembling that goes into it makes it expensive for the size you get.
And than something like Monster in My Pockets does it quite cheaper. And this kight be the reason, microplaysets got replaced by collectable mini figures.
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>>11365423 Wut?
>micro play sets got replaced by collectible mini figures More like miniature figures filled the gab in the market when micro play sets went away. Funko and Lego CMF and resin figures weren’t really a think until 15-20 years after mighty max ended.
Polly pocket has done and continues to do very well and they’re slapping $50 price tags on the specialty ones. If I had my choice between a $15-$30 mighty max or a Lego or funko I’m going mighty max every time.
There’s definitely a market is my point.
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>>11365420 It's the reason audiences, as in kids, didn't pick it up and it wasn't a hit. Power Rangers is simple, good vs bad, monsters vs spandex people and then big robots. It was kids in school that were kind of like super heroes, putting on costumes and fighting. I'm not into it, but I can see why it was such a big hit for kids. Mighty Max is portal hoping to different places for no real reason. It's arbitrary. It's not Johnny Quest/Indiana Jones, it's barely Quantum Leap. It just doesn't make sense, there's no good reason for it. Surface level it's a weak story. That means it has to rely on everything else to sell itself. And it's been pointed out why the toys struggled in the market in this topic. If the story wasn't connecting with kids, and the toys have other micro competition, with more recognizable characters, then there ya go.
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>>11365482 As a kid I maybe saw the show a couple of times but I had many many horror heads and doom zones. The whole show doesn’t need a reboot for the toy line to do well and even a soft reboot comic would be an amazing add on these days.
I paid as much for this horror head as these Polly pockets and would and probably will again. Push out some new mighty max and you can have my money.
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>>11365490 This image makes girls seem so much more well adjusted than boys
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>>11365482 >there's no good reason for it Goojitsu barely has a story and those sell fairly well. Not everything needs to be story driven
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>>11365527 The discussion is why this thing that failed failed. That's apples and oranges. The landscape was power rangers, batman, spider-man, gargoyles. Most shows and toylines don't last as is, but some had staying power. Goojitsu also has licensed toys. Thanos and spider-man sell, go figure. Had Mighty Max gotten do those, it'd be different.
>>11365490 OK, but when you're playing into nostalgia, what are you tapping into with MM? Which set do you re-release that's iconic and everyone will want as bad as street shark or he-man re-release. I'm not saying you need a new show to sell toys, but this is an old toy, who is buying it and why? Sure you'll pay for it, but will hundreds of thousands of other people as well? There's a lot of denial in this topic, but I do forget I am on /toy/
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>>11365564 >The discussion is why this thing that failed failed In what respect? It's not rebooted? Mattel decided to cancel all sets despite selling well in Europe?
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>>11364898 Ok, than you are a superfan. But for me that would be too much.
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>>11364872 >if they had the balls to do it. That also means that they want to pump alot of money into it.
And thats a big risk.
The Taiwan guy is really great. The start was just weird or bumpy. First the name and the set themes were very bold.
>have blind box mini sets with a hero and villain with a different shell each wave Interesting. But i dont think that this would work that well. Like your example it quickly ended. Your idea but with a handfull monster that could be used in the playset.
>have some gross out elements >primary sets are planned with repaints in mind. >Alternate Minifigures and maybe some key parts that plug into the set being different. Thats a good idea. I have one idea for a set that could work for that.
>Stuff like this would absolutely work I agree your points are overal a good idea to make it work.
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Given how Mattel has more "family friendly" in-house IPs that sell more traditional toys like figures (MOTU, Street Sharks), what if the new playsets, though still being aimed at kids, are still edgy and detailed with a reboot show aimed at somehat older audiences (Not adults, but more teens)?
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>>11365717 That's not being a "superfan," it's what a complete Doom Zone goes for in good condition. The pylons for Skull Dungeon are rare and easily lost, and the hardest parts to get. You may have to buy an entire beaten up Doom Zone just to get the pieces. Completing a set costs money, when small pieces from 30-year-old toys sell for $20-$50+. The PeariA Rover Robin sets are $80-$90+ for their Doom Zones. So I'm more than willing to pay whatever Mattel would want.
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>>11365791 >That's not being a "superfan," it's what a complete Doom Zone goes for in good condition. Because people, who are really dedicated to getting them are willing to pay that much. Why are you being defensive about this? Do you seriously not understand toy collecting? Not everyone is willing to pay said prices, or don't care about pylons. You're justifying why it cost so much and why you pay so much. That's fine, but you can't justify this cost for everyone, it's worth it for you, it's not for everyone. If more people were willing to pay high prices, that means demand goes up and the price, would be even higher.
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>>11365932 >dedicated to getting them are willing to pay that much It's a 30-year-old toy. I'm not being defensive. It just bothers me hearing someone acting like a poorfag regarding a 30-year-old toy, and then pretending like people are paying scalper prices. Even the new PeariA sets are over $80.
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>>11365432 Maybe you are right. But it feels like in the late 90s the collectible figures increased.
>>11365482 You might have a point.
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>>11365791 That is a superfan. To get it complete and buy it for an expensive price. A vintage listing price.
And now it makes sense that someone made 3D printable parts for the Skull Dungeon.
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>>11365959 I think you're just not getting the discussion that's being had and yes you are being defensive because you're not talking about the subject, you're talking about you, and this topic is about MM, not you.
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>>11365728 Pic related is close to what I'm imagining. Basically think of the heroes and villains packs, but instead of a pack of 7-8 figures it's 2 figures per clamshell. Have a super basic, paint free interior, maybe a sticker(or a sheet of stickers of like, some skeletons, slime, and lizards that you can place on the inside or outside to hearts content). First wave is the skull mountain clamshell, second wave dragon island, etc. 5 different sets of 2 figures each wave. And this would be among the cheapest, blind box item for the line, not replacing horror heads or doom zones, just another way to sell things with modern sensibility.
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>>11366046 What is this? Fucking would buy a million of exactly what you’re describing.
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>>11366073 It's AI I just generated and did some editing in photoshop. The figures are old rare mighty max figures.
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>>11366075 Very fucking nice my guy! That’s exactly what I’m looking for. Horror heads part 2 or something. Very Monsters in my Pocket feel but I like!
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>>11366003 >3D printable parts for the Skull Dungeon. That's gay as fuck. 3D printed shit is almost never good.
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>>11366046 This is a step down, but Id still buy something like this. Would want a little more detail, but some MM sets had superfluous detail. Like stairs a figure couldn't actually stand on.
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>>11366003 >buy it for an expensive price. >>11366004 >I think you're just not getting the discussion that's being had and yes you are being defensive because you're not talking about the subject, you're talking about you, and this topic is about MM, not you. No, you're being poorfags, who are cheap and priced out of toys. There are people buying Storm Collectibles right now for $100 to $150+ on Bigbadtoystore, despite having some of the worst QC, worse than Mattel or anybody. I think toys just aren't for you. And there are people buying BRAND NEW Mighty Max sets from PeariA on Bigbadtoystore for over $90. You just don't get what toys sell for. You guys shouldn't speak for anyone but your poor, probably brown skin selves.
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>>11366177 >No, you're being poorfags, who are cheap and priced out of toys. lol dude, I am also willing to pay high amounts for MM and have almost all the sets I want. And you play the racism card, good lord. You know, if you don't like people in this topic, you can stop posting in it. No one would miss your company. Also, no one in here is calling for specific sets to be re-released cause they're expensive. They're talking about what mattel could do for a re-launch. You don't seem to actually want to talk about the toy. I am just able to speak from a higher level of understanding. Thank you for showing you're a true toytard.
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>>11366046 >>11366176 To be clear I would still want sets with lots of detail and paint and features, I just think adding in a cheap sub theme like this to sell more and varied figures is an excellent idea. Think:
-new style blind box, shown above
-new style dread head/monster head but the heads have slime gimmicks and shit like some of the treasure X and other lines
-horror heads
-doom zones
-a mega head/large playset
so 5 different size/style options, but focusing on the parts of MM that are iconic and people love, and switching out the smaller and less special items for things in the current style of how various toylines are successful. this is the way.
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>>11366177 Sounds like someone's insecure about paying almost 100 bucks for something that cost 9.99 in the 90s and has to justify it.
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>>11366180 I do want to talk about the toy, but when people are acting like fags, expect to be treated like one.
>>11366199 That's just it, it's a toy from 30 years ago.
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>>11366209 >but when people are acting like fags, expect to be treated like one. It's probably why everyone is dumping on you in this topic.
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>>11366046 Interesting. It looks more expensive than just minifigures. But i like the enviromental approach that the packaging is a playset or not just into the garbage.
2 minifigures are not enough in my eyes.
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>>11366177 Everyone values differntly. And being a superfan is not an insult. Dont get so defensive.
And i am happy for you that you can buy them and have fun getting old sets in a complete state. They are worth it, when you are really into them.
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The idea that mattel should release MM sets for 100 dollars is exactly the type of thing Id expect to see said on /toy/
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>>11366183 Sounds good. But it also seems to be a very big assorment.
And i am not sure if the blindnoxes should be more like pic.
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>>11366725 If you need a sign that civilization is collapsing, this is a nice example. Back in the 90s you could buy a huge playset of Skull Mountain, now here is the 2020s downsized version for what the average consumer can afford.
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>>11365745 Also if Mattel does want to sell toys, than have the playsets bridge their show adaptation better, with their respective antagonist's heads looking exactly like when they're playsets closed with ones like the scorpion and the spider appearing on the show as giant monsters or Skull Lab's skull being it's entrance a la the vintage toy.
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>>11366211 I knew you would reply, since you started out acting like a troon.
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>>11366656 It's not about being a "superfan," it's about some fag complaining about prices in a thread for a 30-year-old toy that's already expensive to get into. He didn't want to talk about it or address that PeariA is charging over $90.
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>>11366211 Wow an actual faggot on /toy/
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If mattel wants to do this, they better do it soon. MM is old as fuck and the collectors eyesight is gonna be too damn bad too appreciate the tiny details. You wanna sell the nostalgia bait toys to 20-30 year olds, not 40-50 year olds. No one remembers MM. I go to cons a lot and Ive helped people selling stuff at booths all the time letting them know what little figures are from. Unless we get a full relaunch like polly pocket did, that'd be cool.
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>>11366737 Lol, good one.
But thats the way shrinkflation/inflation works. And maximize profits.
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>>11367318 It is about being a superfan and what it is worth to anons. When you are a superfan than you will pay more, which is ok, because you appreciate the idea and are willing to pay more.
I like the idea of MM and the pics but i dont want or can pay that much.
And PeariA is very expensive. But i see it more like a GarageKit company like Nacelle, so i can understand the price. But i also know that it is like Funko that you can make a good amount of money.
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>>11367469 Theoretical they are good monster toys and can sell itself without nostalgia.
But i guess it is much more expensive or less guaranteed profit to promote them without a build-in buyer base.
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>>11367490 >GarageKit company like Nacelle Nacelle is a big company will full retail backing, it is in no way a small mom and pop company.
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>>11367494 >Or like Nacelle I forgot to put an “or“ between it. Because i mean that they cater to a small fan group and have small runs and build upon re-using the mold many times.
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>>11367469 >you wanna sell the nostalgia bait toys to 20-30 year olds, not 40-50 year olds. Most 20-30 year olds have no money for nostalgia toys, besides the MM audience is heading into their 30's anyway. I had them as a 4 year old, I'm 34 now.
Though really it'd be best to start by marketing a new line to kids
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>>11366177 So you should hunt for whales in a place you could get schools of normal-sized fish instead?
That just makes your product hard to buy because some asshole spotter has already got it.
That's not a toy you are talking about. That's an "adult collectable" to put on your fucking desk (*IF* you ever take it out of it's package.)
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>>11366688 it seems a little loopy to call it a toy at that price.
Also if its' FOR COLLECTORS sure pay whatever ghastly amounts you want.
>>11366725 Sets should be bigger than THAT.
and should be $20-$30 with smaller cheaper figures or accessory packs.
Hell they were more that 1/2 way there with these. Make the figures smaller. "dress up" the skull interiors. Hell you could make the first wave 3-4 sets. Similar but with a color and villain difference.
They work a story around WHY they are different.
"Lord Scar lives in the Golden Skull keep. He prefers to use electricity on his victims." or something.
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Hear me out>Remakes of the original playsets but this time with more detail and possibly more articulated minifigures a la Origins or 30th Anniversary Street Sharks. >Sets based on their respective show adaptations. >MAYBE a full-scaled figure line.
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>>11367874 >Go all out from the start Unrealistic as fuck, also
>Remakes of the original playsets but this time with more detail Not only were the original toys extremely detailed already, but you think they're going to improve on that in this day and age?
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>>11367766 >it seems a little loopy to call it a toy at that price. That's what it is though. Calling it anything other than a toy is denial. If it's not a toy, we shouldn't be discussing it here on /toy/
Mattel could license MM out to a series that does collector type stuff. They've done it here and there, but speaking of denial, MM is not as popular as he-man. Polly Pocket has been successful, but I assume the micro Jurassic sets could be a test to see if MM could work as a relaunched brand.
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>>11367968 Ya, but in the example I gave the items can be bought for $12-$25 and might be better for a wider audience - you know, like kids.
If they were the prices previously mentioned - well, sure they would get sales. People like O-ring Joes for fuck sake. But repeated sales and survival of a line? Not at $60-$100 a pop.
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The guy in charge of PeariA Studio has been showing off some new prototype images for unproduced Mighty Max sets for the cancelled series 4 toys. He's likely making the never produced Stegoman set from the Battle Warriors. Stegoman was apparently part of a team of heroes that the now teenage Max would have led against a team of villains led by Skullmaster.
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>>11368521 Part of making Max older allowed him to be bigger and use weapons or be slightly articulated in series 4. He would have sported a jacket and sunglasses.
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>>11368530 Max and his team of Avengers vs Skullmaster and his team, the Dark Company.
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>>11368531 PeariA Studio also met with the original designers of the 90's line and posted pics of them getting some of the new Max/Rover Robin sets.
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>>11368536 Physical prototypes for the new sets. I like the Mothman set.
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Here's hoping for MOTU micro-playsets in the future.
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>>11349961 Somebody tell Mattel Brick Shop they already have a mascot ready to use.
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>>11368531 Mighty Max is such a failed brand. They really had no clue wtf they were going. Like, OK, time to make a team of good guys and a team of bad guys late into the life of the line.
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>>11368524 Burger King Kids Club vibes
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>>11368873 It might be connected to Bluebird being the original creator. When you look at them, they are just producing plastic toy not a toyline with a storyline.
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>>11368873 >>11368882 I suspect series 4 was a forced reboot/refresh by Mattel, who was demanding the same for Polly Pocket.
From Wikipedia:
>by 1997, Polly Pocket sales had fallen back. Mattel announced it would take no more of the existing stock until a reformat of the brand, and the share price was down to only a quarter of its previous peak value. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebird_Toys Mattel then shortly thereafter acquired Bluebird Toys after a corporate raider tried to buy the company, forcing Mattel to then buy up Bluebird so some rich jackass wouldn't get Polly Pocket or Mighty Max.
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>>11368977 >>11368980 Bluebird's original Mighty Max storyline is different from what the cartoon did and the later package details. Mighty Max is like a Quantum Leap like character, stuck in Doom Zones and has figure a way out, only to be teleported somewhere else. The cartoon gives him a day to day life. I like the idea of Max having a team, it'd just be better if it was a more organic team and not such an obvious team made by a board room. A stegosaurus man is cool, but why is he with Max? Give him characters he met on his journey. Like Frankenstein or a Mermaid or not such obvious attempts at just ripping of Ninja Turtles. Like ah, a Stegosaurus, Lion, Samurai and Bird man fight a Spider, seaman, a bat and.... It looks one of the bad guys straight up has a Boba Fett helmet on. I think the way to sell Mighty Max to kids more would have been to add more kids. Turn it into Goonies or the Burger King Kids Club.
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>>11368531 >>11368530 >>11368528 >>11368527 >>11368526 >>11368524 >>11368523 >>11368521 This is interesting. So they went more Turtles or Extreme Dinosaurs.
But kinda weird turn they went with the Warrior series.
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>>11369688 It is less a playset.
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>>11369691 They should have made them a trap or turn into a vehicle.
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>>11369535 Bluebirds storytelling is rather episodic. And the Goonies is a good idea. There is a reason why the cartoon created friends for Max.
I would say make it more like a Goosebump series.
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>>11369699 >I would say make it more like a Goosebump series. Brands like this really rely on reoccurring characters. If it was a new kid each time it goes away. The problem is coming up with a story that connects all the doom zones and they never did that.
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>>11370038 I meant regarding kid characters. Goosebumps always use kids for the young audience as viewer identification.
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>>11368532 >>11368536 This really shows how small they are.
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>>11369693 >>11371490 >>11371493 How did MM get away with so much unique sculpting by the way?
I never questioned it back in the 90s but reuse has always been a big toy thing and sure they could reuse MM, Vergil, etc but the bulk of the sculpt was new per doom zone.
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>>11371761 I think in the 80s and 90s there was alot of special sculpting. Look at GI Joe, MASK, Turtles or Sectasaurus. Than you got things like Transformers and DinoRiders which had very small mold reuse. Something like Motu seems very rare.
And back than you could produce it for very cheap in HongKong and Macao.
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>>11371761 They kept the same toys on shelves for longer periods. Getting re-releases with Virgil and Norman to tie in to the cartoon. While TMNT did like 12 new molds every 4 months, not to mention lines like that did big vehicles.
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>>11372363 I think character driven series have a hardtime to re-use molds.
The biggest re-use is the main Turtles body. But making a second fly mutant or a second rhino mutant might be less attractive to kids.
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>>11372438 They only re-used the turtle body when it was a more plain style release. Like The shell opening ones or the head poppers. They still had all those character versions, like the old west, military, star trek and so on. Those were all new moldings each time. MM got away with putting the effort into molds by just releasing less variety in product.
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>>11372913 You are right. But i thought about the normal Turtles in the first wave.
