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This is proof that toys need cartoons to get kids to care about the product

Anonymous Fri 15 Aug 2025 18:04:30 No.11530806 View View Reply Original Report

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Golden Girl and the Guardians of the Gemstones lost to She-Ra Princess of Power in the 1980s. Despite having good Franzetta style dolls for girls.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Aug 2025 19:16:26 No.11530860 Report

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>>11530806
She ra also was backed by being associated with he man

Shes hot tho

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Anonymous Sat 16 Aug 2025 06:07:21 No.11531319 Report

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>>11530806
>This is proof that toys need cartoons to get kids to care about the product

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Anonymous Sat 16 Aug 2025 10:55:48 No.11531426 Report

Quoted By: >>11531974 >>11532966

>>11530806
The art for this series is so badass

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Anonymous Sat 16 Aug 2025 11:01:43 No.11531430 Report

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>>11530860
Yeah. I know boys who got both He-Man AND She-Ra toys. Totally unheard of for a little boy to buy "girl's" toys. But the crossover factor really helped

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Anonymous Sat 16 Aug 2025 11:06:11 No.11531434 Report

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>>11531319
It did get a cartoon though.
Albeit a shitty one.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Aug 2025 11:20:05 No.11531441 Report

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>>11530806
It would be funny if a modern reboot went in the opposite way that She-Ra Princesses of Power did.
Like instead of a lesbian showrunner, the new GG & the GotG would be headed by straight men and goes into a more old school Conan type direction.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Aug 2025 12:38:10 No.11531463 Report

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>>11530806
I always dug the box art for these. The little jewel above her pusy did it for me on her costume.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Aug 2025 15:48:29 No.11531568 Report

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>>11531441
That would be pretty based. Though I won't lie I'm now imagining a Conan-esque classic Sword and Sorcery style reboot or spiritual successor with tonnes of eroticism, helmed by a "one of the lads" lesbian, at least partly because of the seething from the usual suspects it would generate.
>"Nooooo you can't just make a cool series that panders to the male gaze! You're part of the LGBTOMGWTFBBQ community, you have to make everyone an ugly legbeard and make statements about Current Thing every five seconds! You betrayed us!"
IDK, dykes seem to be either wretched bilious cows or some of the most based women you'll ever meet with very little inbetween.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Aug 2025 17:49:28 No.11531627 Report

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>>11531434
Which makes the point invalid

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2025 01:27:21 No.11531974 Report

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>>11531426
>The art for this series is so badass
This. The story books are worth a read just for the art.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2025 02:16:48 No.11531999 Report

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>>11531974
How many story books were there?

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2025 07:19:44 No.11532125 Report

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>>11530806
Golden Girl had an animated pilot though.
The line itself sold very well in europe. Must be an US thing.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2025 13:55:58 No.11532248 Report

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>>11530806
Golden Girl had some media tie-ins.
The problem is that it might be too fantasy.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2025 13:57:43 No.11532249 Report

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>>11532248
And thats why it sold better in Europe, because Europe tends to like Fantasy equally as Sci-Fi.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2025 14:32:19 No.11532277 Report

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>>11531999
3 x Find Your Own Fate Books
3 x Activity Books
3 x Tele-Story Books
1 x Story Book
1 x European Comic.
1 x Colorform book
Thats what i know of.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2025 16:00:09 No.11532306 Report

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>>11530806
Yeah no shit. It helps kids to know who the characters are so they can appreciate them more. Even comic books helped a lot with that (back then but not now).

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Anonymous Sun 17 Aug 2025 16:13:15 No.11532319 Report

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>>11531434
>It did get a cartoon though
>>11532125
>Golden Girl had an animated pilot though.
Is it actually available to watch anywhere? I've only seen a janky thumbnail. Thought it was only screened once in a theater and then became lost media.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2025 01:21:16 No.11532784 Report

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>>11532319
Only snippets on YouTube.
I recall watching parts of it as a very young lad. Yeah it could've been a promotional one off thing.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2025 03:34:29 No.11532837 Report

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>>11530806
>Golden Girl and the Guardians of the Gemstones lost to She-Ra Princess of Power in the 1980s. Despite having good Franzetta style dolls for girls.

She ra had an unfair sales advantage in that they tied the horde to the tail end of the heman line and partnered the show with heman as well. So a lot of young boys still into heman were probably also watching she ra for the horde and purchased a few figures.

Golden Girl was essenitally fighting 2 shows. Maybe 4 properties if you include spellbound by marvel and amethyst by DC.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2025 09:20:37 No.11532963 Report

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>>11531319
Super Dinosaur got both, but the toyline got caught short because of piss poor sales. The bigger issue in the examples of Power Players, Super Dinosaur, Robozuna, and Megaman 2018 is the difficulty in circulating media nowadays. Most toy companies now hve since learned to dump everything onto youtube. But they have yet to recognize all that they stand to compete against in order to monopolize children's attention spans nowadays. It's honestly surprising we havent yet seen a toy maker take its cues from Cocomelon/Skibid Toilet/Brainrot nonsense to intentionally tailor the most exploitative ADHD-inducing media franchise imaginable. Maybe we're still in the early stages of such efforts between the Moose toylines for the troonclown show and Mr Antichrist.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2025 09:25:10 No.11532966 Report

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>>11531426
I wish more modern toylines and children's media attempted to punch above their weightclass like that nowadays. Everything has been stripped down to its barest bones and tailored to the lowest common denominator for years now. We've ended up instituting the lowest bar standard imaginable and we're seeing the consequences of those actions enmasse now as people defend the worst of the worst dogshit simply because they enjoyed it. Not to repeat myself but this is why you end up with kids, boys especially, going nuts over vidya anime and skibidi toilet. They're underserviced in today's world. All the media made for them talks down to them and in turn they reject it for whatever alternative becomes availible.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2025 09:29:42 No.11532967 Report

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>>11532837
If you want to get into the weeds of the sword and sorcery princess wars the story just snowballed further into the 90's. In 89' efforts were made to cook up a PoP styled line of Wonder Woman toys. Same form factor, similar visuals and accessories, but with a whole new cast of OCs outside of Wondy. Unfortunately the line went nowhere, but Mattel just doubled down on two subsequent efforts (both Saban co-productions) in Princess Gwenevire (which itself has a lame modern tumblry ""graphic novel"" revival now) and Tenko.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2025 14:15:47 No.11533102 Report

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>>11530806
What could be
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-5bDbuhrvFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfQNuv8POQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAIkoArzTr0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUo-tBhnrl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6qFKjaNmEM

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2025 18:40:39 No.11533450 Report

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2025 23:45:27 No.11533785 Report

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>>11532967
Actually they were not all OCs. Ice and Dolphin were canon DC characters, but the other three dolls were original characters. Including the new cat themed villain who was not just Cheetah. There were also plans for Supergirl to be part of the second wave of dolls but since the first wave of dolls never happened clearly she never happened.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Aug 2025 23:59:26 No.11533797 Report

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>>11533785
I genuinely lament the cancellation of the line. It's the exact sort of project Wonder Woman's needed for decades now.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2025 00:00:50 No.11533799 Report

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2025 00:26:00 No.11533823 Report

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>>11533797
I think it would have been neat. Apparently retailers weren't interested because so many other action doll lines had failed up to that point. Which is fair. I think Sailor Moon was the only one of these lines that really did well. Even She-Ra's toyline was considered a failure. The show had high ratings but they skewed male since boys were watching it due to its relation to He-Man.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2025 01:08:11 No.11533852 Report

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>>11533823
She-Ra's toy line sold $60 million in 1985, while He-Man sold at least $250 million.
Nielsen ratings for the cartoon were 2.9 million households, the same as He-Man. When interviewed for documentaries, people who worked at Filmation say "A lot of girls watched He-Man, and the boys stayed for She-Ra. Mattel just fumbled the toys."

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2025 03:57:00 No.11533946 Report

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>>11533852
>"A lot of girls watched He-Man, and the boys stayed for She-Ra. Mattel just fumbled the toys."
Woke lies told by liberal shills. Earlier documentaries had everyone admitting that boys abandoned He-Man once it became associated as being "for girls" after She=Ra came along. Revisionists always lie.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2025 03:58:40 No.11533948 Report

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>>11530806
>Franzetta style
>Franzetta
Frazetta, moron.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Aug 2025 06:41:33 No.11534110 Report

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>>11530806
Microman did pretty good in Japan. But over here a comic by Marvel did sell it.

And then the biggest counterpoint may be Lego.

I love that 80s fantasy art so much though I wish someone saved it all the obscure toyline art for art books like the heman one.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Aug 2025 01:11:30 No.11536843 Report

Quoted By: >>11537064

>>11533450
look at all those five heads

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Anonymous Fri 22 Aug 2025 01:15:21 No.11536844 Report

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>>11533946
>Woke lies told by liberal shills. Earlier documentaries had everyone admitting that boys abandoned He-Man once it became associated as being "for girls" after She=Ra came along. Revisionists always lie.

depended on your age. The boys that dropped he man were probably already growing out of it or putting their money into transformers or later, tmnt.

I watched she ra with my sister because it was in the animation block with he man. She had some she ra figures but I had some horde figures, which were being sold with the boy toys.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Aug 2025 01:18:00 No.11536848 Report

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>>11534110
MOTU arguably has the most dedicated archivists within its fandom. Everyday it seems like another Masters fan is hard at work cleaning up, scanning, or in one way or another preserving old media related to the franchise.

The neglect of Micronauts is something worth studying. It went from the biggest toyline of it's day to a historical footnote in less than a decade, It's truly only kept alive by fans at this point, Hasbro is infuriatingly inept with their properties. ROM and Micronauts should be easy sells verbatim and they couldnt manage it even before the pandemic. Tragic.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Aug 2025 02:23:49 No.11536885 Report

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>>11536848
>ROM and Micronauts

its kind of wild they have abandoned both given their history. Lots of big name characters in each run.

I guess marvel, and now Disney, just hate even attempting the legal battle necessary for doing something with them.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Aug 2025 06:57:26 No.11537064 Report

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>>11536843
Yes, five heads on the heroes and five heads on the villains.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Aug 2025 14:32:56 No.11541779 Report

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>>11537064
Blame Barbie. They set the trend for five heads!

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