>>11571880LA being a 13 was always really weird to me. Yeah he's a super ancient cybertronian, and the last one to become an autobot, but I don't think he should be THAT old, like maybe from a lost era before the golden age, but not from the reign of Prima as the ruler of cybertron. Maybe he was present for that era, but not as a prime, just as a random big guy... like the Jetfire to Prima's Optimus.
I am also solid on A3 and Vector being part of the 13, even if Furman didn't make them. There could also be a solid argument for Solus, but she directly conflicts with Furmans love of making fembots abominations.
Micronus being a part of the 13 is retarded, since unicron created the minicons, even if you say he's the progenitor of smaller cybertronians like minibots and deployers it's still kinda weird.
Really the idea that the 13 are the origin point of all the different types of cybertronians is just fucking stupid in the first place since there is so much overlap between the so called descendants. Combiners being a genetic thing too is absurd since practically every one besides Devastator has been created on screen, and then Nexus's enigma makes new ones? Why?
I love the idea of the 13 and their connection to Primus and Unicron, and how that connects down through the different universes, but aligned, and the shroud really fucked shit up. I really want to see an "unshrouding" some day that trys to rectify all the damage that shit did to all the universes. Like the versions of the singularities that stayed singularities having the knowledge that was cut off from them returned, and how that would allow Unicron to start universal destruction again. Shattered glass already explained how singularities like SG Alpha Trion is so far interdimensionally distant from the singular Alpha Trion that he is functionally independent while still able to use the collective knowledge of the singular Alpha Trion.
