>>6116612Definitely some weird decisions were made with the two.
Looking at their tails reminded me a lot of Dragon Caesar's tail. That begs the question: why could they have not just made their tails into gigantic lance's for the little ladybots? The tails look like they're meant to poke somebody's eye out, so why not give it to them? Instead of the more generic weapons fare, give them each a staff that their tail will plug onto in robot mode.
As for the head, I think they should have reengineered it to look like robot ponytails. Like the way optibotimus showed how he kept Dino heads reminded me of a giant braided pony tail. If they played proportions, engineering, and joint integration, they could have had a robotic, braided ponytail that could have made them look pretty dynamic in action poses.
As for the hands, they should have just let them rest behind the arms. They curve behind the firearms nicely already. On their shoulders, they don't feel much better than kibble. At most, rework the Dino hands so that they hug the forearm more snuggly.
Overall I think they are ideas that could have made alright 3P Transformers, but over-thinking and under-thinking in certain spots put them down.