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Franchises That have Forms / Power Levels

Anonymous Tue 04 Feb 2020 16:34:14 No.7977173 View View Reply Original Report

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I Think Dragon Ball is a good example of this phenomenon, I only producing figures of the perfect form of a character. I don't think we'll ever get a figuarts of 1st form Cell! Hell I think if you did all the forms of Frieza, it would sell like hot cakes! What some other franchises that have this issue?

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Anonymous Tue 04 Feb 2020 16:50:49 No.7977193 Report

Quoted By: >>7977466 >>7978385

>>7977173
it seems to be a Japan thing only because US side Hasbro loves showing all the outfits and levels of heroes and villains

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Anonymous Tue 04 Feb 2020 17:26:40 No.7977220 Report

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>>7977173
Digimon has this issue.
Normally it'll just be the child form or the ultimate and rarely the adults or perfects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Feb 2020 21:08:20 No.7977466 Report

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>>7977193
Dragon Balls ML equivalent, Dragon Stars, has just as many form variations for characters like Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, etc. It's the budget/$20 lines that can afford to produce so many different forms of a character. Most just use the same buck with a new head and/or paintjob. You can't compare that to more expensive lines like Figuarts, Mafex, and others since those usually do new sculpts for each character, regardless of the minute differences.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Feb 2020 21:12:27 No.7977472 Report

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>>7977466
mezco toy and Storm Collectables are like Figuarts, Mafex, and others, and they have had no issue making different forms /power levels. They are doing a lot of different costumes. We've gotten Mk1 - 3 Subzero in less than a year and 3 different costumes of Chun Li rolling out.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Feb 2020 21:17:05 No.7977478 Report

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>>7977472
Sub-Zero works because they can reuse his body for 50 fuckin characters.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Feb 2020 21:33:39 No.7977489 Report

Quoted By: >>7977897 >>7977918

Super sentai, Kamen rider, Pokeman, Digimon, MG 1/100 Gundam kits anymore. If you're not a Gundam type mobile suit your not getting a MG. Most of the grunts or villain/ rival suits are relegated to the RE line now.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Feb 2020 23:07:05 No.7977621 Report

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>>7977478
not that Mk3 one in the pic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Feb 2020 23:45:17 No.7977695 Report

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>>7977472
Mezco and storm can do it because those different forms are largely recolors, and that helps them break even on the budget for those figures. They make those figures with the knowledge that they can sell alternate versions.

>>7977621
Even so, the fact that they can milk the other molds so much helps fund the rare one-off use.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 00:47:06 No.7977804 Report

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>>7977173
Ben 10 has some power-level stuff. yknow, the whole "to sell toys" schtick. but they still look cool

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 01:31:48 No.7977897 Report

Quoted By: >>7977918 >>7983135

>>7977489
>If you're not a Gundam type mobile suit your not getting a MG
The UC timeline does get non-Gundam MG's semi-frequently, but all of the AUs are totally fucked. In fact, you probably won't even get all the AU Gundams in MG form, only the main protags are guaranteed to get everything they pilot. In that regard Gundam is kind of ass-backwards, side characters typically get MGs of their initial Gundams but not their final upgrades. I can't even get my favorite 00 Gundam in 1/100, let alone MG.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 01:39:58 No.7977918 Report

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>>7977897
>>7977489
Or it's a glorious P Bandai

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 05:56:45 No.7978260 Report

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Tamashii used to make figuarts of everything but now they only do the upgrade forms

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 07:54:18 No.7978356 Report

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>>7977173
The only thing that i care about is Cyborg Frieza SHF... Never ever shit, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 08:14:57 No.7978373 Report

Quoted By: >>7979188 >>7980324

>>7977173
>I don't think we'll ever get a figuarts of 1st form Cell!
It's a sad situation for sure. He's my favorite Toriyama design and I'd preorder a Figuarts of him in a heartbeat.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 08:33:08 No.7978385 Report

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>>7977193
>comparing one of the best selling main characters with a form of an albeit popular villain
I get your point though, but if you're pitting Wolverine, then the equivalent of him, exposure and popularity wise, in Dragon Ball is either Goku or Vegeta, really.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 16:38:54 No.7978752 Report

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>>7977173
>I don't think we'll ever get a figuarts of 1st form Cell!
He's been on their poll for which characters people wanna see for several years now. He'll get made eventually. Whenever they finish up more requested characters and he starts rising up as one of the more popular characters among what is left.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 17:07:43 No.7978799 Report

Quoted By: >>7981636 >>7983137

>>7978752
There's several issues here!
1. Personally, I cannot stand polls! Instead of voting for obscure characters, that have NEVER had a decent release of anything! Instead people vote for some super obvious character that would more than likely be in a first wave release. Usually the polling looks something like the top 3 some different forms of Goku or Vegeta, good job, boys you just made the company really happy!

2. Usually when a company is almost exhausted of there most popular characters/ slight remove tweaks/ palette swaps. And you just think finally, they'll get to some other characters. The line reboots with a sudo 2.0 versions pre-existing characters.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 21:49:41 No.7979141 Report

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I bet dragon stars does a first and second form cell eventually. Better than nothing, right??

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 22:22:17 No.7979176 Report

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>>7977173
Kamen Rider Figuarts gets retail releases of the first form of the main and secondary riders while everybody else is relegated to online exclusives or just straight up never get a figure.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 22:45:02 No.7979188 Report

Quoted By: >>7979201

>>7978373
I want to live in the alternate universe where Toriyama's editor didn't make him change the design.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Feb 2020 22:52:23 No.7979201 Report

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>>7979188
Yes my man!!!

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Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2020 10:24:43 No.7979962 Report

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>>7977173
SCRYed had a good example of that, best showcased with their protagonists' growing powers, but most noticeable with the main character Kazuma.

Unfortunately the Figuarts made for the 10th anniversary of the series came out right before Bandai made major advancements with their sculpts.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2020 10:38:30 No.7979968 Report

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Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2020 17:56:38 No.7980322 Report

Quoted By: >>7983107

>>7979968
>Outdated figuarts sculpt and engineering + hiraifaces
Worst combination ever.
Also
>No Super Pinch Crusher SoC

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Anonymous Thu 06 Feb 2020 17:57:53 No.7980324 Report

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>>7978373
>He's my favorite Toriyama design and I'd preorder a Figuarts of him in a heartbeat.
Same here, love that creepy cicada monster.

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 12:51:29 No.7981636 Report

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>>7978799
>Usually the polling looks something like the top 3 some different forms of Goku or Vegeta, good job, boys you just made the company really happy!
Obviously you have never seen any of the polls, because those things aren't usually even options unless there is a new form to consider (I believe Ultra Instinct Goku may have been on one of them).

This was one of the most recent surveys.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:08:44 No.7983107 Report

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>>7980322
>No Super Pinch Crusher SoC
Oh man, don't remind me. I'm still salty over the fact Zetsuei Form 2 never got a release (as nearly impossible as that would have been).
Don't get me on the side Alters that should've gotten figures of some sort. Super Pinch Crusher, Hammer, Noble Tempest, the various car versions of Radical Good Speed.

Damn this show had some beautiful designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:36:34 No.7983135 Report

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>>7977897
Even MC Gundams aren't guaranteed anymore. If you go way back to 2011, AGE-1 Normal sold kinda meh, and then Titus and Spallow sold like shit. That was the last time a MC Gundam got its MG within a couple months of the anime beginning. G-Self STILL doesn't have a MG, and Barbatos just got one last year, almost a little over three years after the anime first aired. Hell, I'm still surprised we got Dynames last year, and thank God it sold well, we have Kyrios on the way and then hopefully Virtue next year. If we're lucky, we'll start going through all of 00's Gundams.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:38:21 No.7983137 Report

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>>7978799
>The line reboots with a sudo 2.0 versions pre-existing characters.
In some fairness to DBZ, the original SHF came out in what, 2009? And then they reused that Goku mold for years while they were still playing it safe. Early DBZ figs desperately needed 2.0's.

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