>>39764627depend on the perspective of what you consider a newfag
but the cycle isn't the same like indentical (like S&S has a more harsh backlash than any other pokemon game) but it's quite the same is differente shape
i remember all the hate about new things in pokemon at each new game they reveal and how after there's a nex generations people start liking them etc
i'm sure when gen 9 will come out people will be making apologize thread to S&S
