>>48702717fuck are you smoking? talonflame had been shit for a year by the time lycanroc-midday came out, it was just expected to be a less shit version of the lycanrocs and it was exactly that
>>48703120It's still good, fuck tierfags
>>48704569Honestly got off easy, went from having no counters in gen 5 OU to fantastic in gen 6/7 UU and a staple on some of my OU teams in gen 6 with Mega Metagross. Scrafty was the one who really got shafted.
Anyhow my nom is pic related, the fact that it got art like this right when it was revealed says it all, really highlights how big loss of 10 speed can be when you're losing your item slot. (iirc there was also other memes about how it would be good against Fairies or whatever because Poison jab, but of course this was never its issue)
