>>51314607see
>>51316566 for that first point
Subjective bullshit I disagree with
Yeah no shit sherlock they are starters and popular pokemon, wow who would fucking guess people use the pokemon that people generally like?
it was the second gen asshat, how would it not rely on gen 1 gen 1 had just happened
rival is the best in the series although high in bw2 is roughly as good
Its a good generation, stop making random and almost completely false statements OP.