>>37195100>Gen 5: muh designs>>37195112>Gen 5: Muh it just gets stab and normal movesThose aren't "meme complaints". I'm the biggest Unovabortion to ever roam this board and even I think Gen 5 has an abundance of lazy and bad design compared to other gens. And lolnomoves is a valid complaint too. Because of the newly introduced permanence of TMs they moved even the mediocre coverage moves into late and post game, so you couldn't just give them to your whole team.