>>22979166>>22979186samefag, ill bite though
>extremely slow games in all aspects like battling, moving and stories>the amount of HMs you needed just to even go somewhere>there were a poor amount of sinnoh pokemon to choose from with half the dex at the time being pretty much being legendaries>any gen 4 evos for past gens couldn't be obtained until postgame>gym leader and elite 4 member teams were mostly jokes>along with that they were extremely boring and had literally no personality>tedious areas like marshes, defog area and snowy routes>some of the worst villains with "lets create our own universe cause this one sucks"Platinum improved them a bit and the only good things which came out of D/P was the split and wi-fi, nothing else.