>>30959297What bothers me about Greninja is that he got a great ability for no understandable reason to me. He also got a much better stat spread than the other two starter with moves to back it up. It's also the only Kalos starter to basically get a mega form as an ability. And personally he is one of my least favorite designs in whole series so seeing him so much every where since 2013 has been annoying to me.
He was even in smash 4. It's like how if you hated Charizard or Pikachu I think, expect Charizard wasn't the one Kanto starter that got a mega and it needed a stone, even if it got two and Pkachu's special stuff has never been OP.
Sorry for the rant, I have strong feelings against GreninjaI do think you are right that Incineroar will see some good play in the VGC once we get access to his HA. I just prefer singles myself so I'm a bit sad he won't be as of much use to me in that format. Then again I think the prep work in order to play Pokemon competitively is still so insane without injecting in the Pokemon, I'm not sure I'll even bother anyway.
