>>16278690You're literally backpedaling, just a post ago you said,
>Right, that's why people are using shit frog over gyrados on nearly every team.If you can't back up what you're saying then don't go throwing shit around.
Its my opinion btw, but I think the frog is hardly OU material and people are way overhyping its ability far too much. If someone seriously can't handle it then you need to get it off your head that your team needs to be super hyperoffensive with only the fastest pokemon. Greninja get's walled by just about anything that serves walling purposes, and any sort of sweeper with a reasonable amount of bulk can very easily take a hit from it and revenge kill it as long as its not a quad weakness.
Being this weak does not amount it to it being so useful that it deserves a spot in OU, after all OU is based on usage statistics and we all know that the majority isn't necessarily the smartest.
I like Chesnaught sure, and I know it has its niches just like Greninja has, but I know that is jarring 4x flying weakness isn't gonna be killer until I eliminate flying threats in the opponents team, therefore I cannot deny that there are much better walls I can use in his place. The same applies to Greninja as a sweeper.
