>>29758620>spdef talonflame needs gale wings to make up for the 0 speed investment>offensive talonflame needs gale wings to sweep against priority and faster/scarf monsTalonflame is objectively worse now. Everything else you're saying is fine but you can't seem to wrap your head around this.
>>29758687Stall is dead
>>29758715Eviolite only boosts defenses by 1.2x rather than 1.5x, and more importantly, Unaware only ignores opp's boosts when ATTACKING and not when receiving damage. Literally the only thing that made stall so good, the only thing that made it VIABLE was Unaware Quag and Clefable.
