>>51691233yeah if the Darmanitans are any warning they are pretty niche and the pay off is underwhelming, it could work if you make the form have insane stats.
Base Darms are great wallbreakers/sweepers on there own the but the zen modes you gotta lose half your hp and the Darms are already pretty frail.
Fire/psychic zen mode as low speed,140 sp.atk and okay bulk but its already lost half it's hp to activate
ice/fire is a step in the right direction 160 atk and 135 speed is insane and has a very unique typing but the problem is you have to give up fucking Gorilla tactics one of the strongest abilities in the game. If Gorilla tactics didn't exist the zen mode would have been great.
