>>51454251>I guess we know which franchise has the bigger hard-on for its chosen character now.What kind of weird schizo thread is this? Why are you acting like this was a frequently debated topic? And moreover, why are you pretending Charizard didn't constantly eat shit in the anime? If anything you should be comparing to Goku's direct counterpart, Infernape, who had a nearly unbroken win record in the anime.