>>22706350>any of those moves being worth using outside of countering a niche strategyThe problem with Minimize isn't that it's uncounterable, it's that all the "counters" only apply to certain Pokemon and are barely worth running on their own.
You're better off hyper-aggressively attacking and getting lucky the occasional time you run into evasion shitters than you are packing those moves. This is why it's banned, not because it can't be beat but because the only good way to beat it without gimping your whole team is to just rely on a roll of the dice.
