>>36542417Things that changed in gen 5 that contributed to mass butthurt
>The Pokemon you just mentioned being taken in the way you mentioned instead of being seen as "Oh, this is how Poke-life evolved on this side of the world!">The third Fire/Fighting starter in a row>On top of all of them, especially Alomomola>The anime and art shifted its art style to become more toony, especially around the eyes, many interpreted this as "cuteifying" the old "cool" designs>This combined with Pokemon like Vanillish made many feel like the series was going to start sanitizing itself>The overall designs of the new Pokemon felt a bit too non-pokemon on top of the art shift, making us feel like they changed ALL of the old to fit the new instead of the other way around>as many people continue to point out, that feeling of "these aren't Pokemon" happened because they were indeed overdesigned with useless patterns and lines>By the time we got to play the story ourselves PETA had already turned Team Plasma into a meme for its own reasons!>Hilbert sucks>Cilan sucks>Nate sucks>When B2W2 came around, DNA Fusion was seen as a Digimon gimmick in a generation that people already considered to feel like it was turning into Digimon because of aforementioned overdesigned characters and many began to dismiss the series at a time when the writing was kino>Probably unrelated but 2010-2011 was a time of some turmoil for competitive Pokemon as people were still jumping between a couple different simulators after NetBattle died, even though Smogon had long since abandoned the platform, so the level of butthurt in general for a few vocal communities was still amplified 