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So, some of you guys may remember me from last thread or w/e but I tried again and I think it's slightly better, decided to use a photo club photo as a reference. I wanted to trace but decided against it, I think the reference helped a bit. The drawing is still shit but it's slightly better. I took some of your guys' advice from last time I am kinda glad to see small improvement. That said, it's 3:00am for me so I should get to sleep.