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You know what i noticed? /vp/ loves to shit on starters, and starters only. For example, you always see people bashing, say, Delphox, Decidueye and Blastoise (only examples, people shit on the other starters too) but if you say something similar about similar designs, such as Ninetales, Noctowl and Carracosta, YOU get shat on. Of course people are always shitting on many Pokemon, but it seems that starters are ALWAYS the bad guys here. Is it literally only because they're starters? What's the difference, design-wise, between a starter and a "normal" Pokemon? If, say, Meganium was a "normal" Pokemon and Lilligant was a starter, would things change on both sides?