>>39415341But Gen 5 started the spiral we're on
>A second generation on a handheld that already had one>Started more frequent Pokemon gens>Cut a bunch of features or half-assed them from the older games (Contests, Secret bases, Pokeball customization, ribbons, gender differences, day/night Pokemon)>Introduced gimmicky stuff that wasn't fleshed out as much as it should and removed next gen (Musicals, Seasons)>Stronger push on Story, railroading, and Characters over the actual Pokemon journeyI mean quality-wise Gen 5 isn't bad at all and the sequels were great, Gen 6 was garbage, but it absolutely was the beginning of the decline.