>>12559481I struggled to pick one for the opposite reason.
>2edgy4me steel penguin that learns no good moves, and is steel for no reason >monkey with overly-complex design, oh boy another fire/fighting>a tortoise with a fucking tree growing on it, dat 4x weakness to iceWent with the tortoise because he learns Earthquake early on. But the starters are terrible, second only to gen 5's in the shittiest design category.
>>12559490>more Pokemon>better storyline>more post-gameIt's better. And HGSS still make gen 4 one of the best.
>>125595290/10 troll
>>12559475>mfw having to have an HM slave in my team to battle Red 