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Bout to finish up Shiren 5. Really great and addictive game mechanically but it's odd how mixed I feel about it in the end. Mechanically, it's incredible. Arguably better than any of the PMD games, but it's odd, though it's about as long as a PMD title I feel like it was shorter and I was trying to figure out why that is and I think it comes down to monotony and the small scale story. In PMD there's just a lot more to do and concern yourself with. The dungeons are more varied, there are more objectives, there are more unique NPC's, and the story is usually on a grander scale. In Shiren you are going up the same routes and the dungeons, though randomly generated, are presented in the exact same order every time. The small scale story, 35 floor main dungeon, and only 2 boss fights leave it feeling so small, again, even though it's around the same length as a PMD.