>>56904960All these survive Pikachu/Starmie. I agree 100HP is an important benchmark to keep in mind just like 160HP. That doesn't mean they are unplayable, I'm ok playing a deck that dies to Pikachu if it can win against the majority of decks I face. I'm working on a deck that counters Pikachu but I know full well it will die to most other decks.