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>>36917580>Actually using ANY move to clear the obstacle requires a badge for the obstacle, not the way you clear it. ^^^
Based.
HMs are really just ways for pokemon to interact with their environment, and they should be implemented in a way that expresses this.
I personally like the idea of HM moves not counting towards the 4 move limit - pokemon can learn them in addition to 4 non-HM moves.
Seems that would solve pretty much everything, and wouldn't break any mon too bad (and if they would, you could just make the HMs inaccessible during battle).
