>thread got invaded by ppl thinking smogon = pokémon showdownI'm gone. A thread about pacification between smogonfags and karenfags got turned into a smogon hate thread.
>>12074725Moves with 60 base power are way too weak to be used; double team users are generally really bulky, have high-powered attacking options so you can't just spam faint attack/swift/etc, and generally have reliable recovery.
Then, metagame is centralized between evasion, counter-evasion, counter-counter-evasion...
>inb4 "BUT ITS THE SAME WITH SR"No. You don't instalose with stealth rock, since not every pokémon is weak to it and if it's set up, it doesn't mean you automatically lose.
>>12074743Zapdos beats both of these two. Actually, every flying-type beats them.
Anyway, I don't want to pollute this thread that might've been good with a karen vs smogon war. Bye.
