>>45060178OP is a faggoty lil bitch
>>45060178>Gen 5, all were decentInfernape will always the the superior Chinese starter, cope with your knockoff Unova brand bullshit.
Torterra has a Chad name and is a great in-game choice, while Empoleon was great in this respect & also with its own niche in the meta and both have unique typing(s).
Gen 4 starters are based in every category and apparently act as a filter for the lesser anons.
