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These games were actually really good. I'm enjoying them thoroughly as I did reggie sun and moon. But hey I'm a cheap date, wondertrade was enough to temp me to dip back in. (And wonder trade was greatly optimized and sped up. Nice, got a shiny pheromosa yesterday.) I hope people realize that people made the same complaints 9 years ago when platinum released. I was 19 when it came out and didnt try diamond nor pearl until later. (I actually like them better now looking back. I like the small dex and quirky gym and e4 teams, as retarded as that may sound.) YES I get that I'm basically saying, "theyve been kicking people in the balls for years so its okay *suck, slurp* yes please empty into my mouth, master. etc." You have to realize the japs have been ball kicking ad infinitum, people forget diapearl harbor BUT I DONT. But I dont give a fuck. The games are different enough. The trials this time around are much more challenging. I loved the use of EV trained mons, I think that was a first for mainline singleplayer games. What did you actually LIKE about usum? Dont turn this one thread into a shitstorm plz.