>>30620020I'd love to see both in OU but neither of them will play comfortably there. I could see them having more of a home in doubles because of things like Intimidate and Spirit Shackle (or maybe TR antics with Incineroar but I question if it can do fine with 60 Spe), but they aren't meant for OU.
I'm all for appreciating favorites, I went with Litten, but I'm also not going to kid myself into thinking it can wound up in a tier it can't comfortably play. I applaud people who manage wins even with disadvantages, however.