>>35499835>The problem was you had to go there a dozen times>Get to Hearthome city>Get to Snowpoint city>Plot stuff with Team Galactic>Optional visit after getting Waterfall to collect missed items>Optional visit to get Dialga and PalkiaWow. A whole five times, four if you get the missed items and Dialga and Palkia in the same trip and three times if you don't give a fuck about optional stuff. Also, I should add that on each new visit, you're exploring a new part of the mountain range.
>and have a bunch of garbage HMs on hand to get anywhere in itThe only HMs required to get through it are Strength and Rock Climb and neither of them is garbage.
I swear, the pleople who complain about gen four are just looking for excuses to vent, not bothering to look at their complaints objectively.
