>>54866548The discussion was about difficulty. Range attackers should have to rely solely on positioning and mobility. Examples are Cramorant, Delphox or Pikachu, Chandel, ect. Espeon is acceptable because she has no mobility although it has CC to kinda compensate its not as reliable as other mages so I think it's "ok" to have a get out of jail card as passive for her, even then its a strong passive. Glaceon however has no excuse nor does Cinder.