>>40528264There's this dumb unspoken rule that if people can do it in the games, then it "doesn't count' despite the games and anime not having a lot to do with each other. As such, the Orange League doesn't count cause it's not in a game and the Battle Frontier doesn't count cause most people are too shit at the games to actually beat it and dont' want to feel inferior to Ash who actually pulled it off.
