>>45017467Even then. Bulky water resists are not safe. I can attest since I use a rain team with jolly banded Vish and it 2HKOs Slowbro, Tangrowth, Suicune, Pex, Ferro, maybe Amoonguss, OHKO's Fini, Rillaboom. Its nuts. Can beat stall with Pelipper and itself. (Unless said stall team runs Mantine) due to how strong banded rend is.