>>37518410>Don't octopus have all of these as well?I already said I admit I don't know much about octopuses, and I further admit perhaps I was too eager to "take them out of the running" as you (or the other guy in case you're another poster) said.
I remember hearing about the case you just posted. It clearly shows a capacity of cognitive memory (which I already mentioned about octopuses) and planning according to it at least on the level of those canadians crows (I think they were canadians ones?) they claimed were the smartest crows in the world or something and had them solving puzzles.
Anyway, my point about that post wasn't so much about octopuses. I was just trying to say that I think it's a bit unfair to take only "empathy" and "emotion" out of my previous post when I at least made an effort to talk about much more than that regarding the delphinidae family, and specially the orcas.
I do not know if they're really the second smartest animal, again I'm no expert and that's just my personal opinion considering what I learned 2 years ago reading shit about them and what not.
I know there were studies that showed those traits, but I don't know the full extent of those studies nor their conclusions, not to mention all of this is an area of investigation that is still active as fuck and will probably be for decades to come if not more.
With all I currently know about them though, my vote still goes to the orcas.
Regardless, we can at least agree that both groups of animals are exceptionally intelligent and will continue to surprise us in this department. And I really like both of them.