>>28608954>Gurdurr definitely feels like they were trying to go for the same type of shit as Machamp but kind of fucked up the conceptHow exactly did they fuck up on the concept? Conkeldurr evokes Machamp without being a complete carbon copy but having enough similar themes--started using "man-made" objects (belt, girder, etc), masculine looking, one is muscular, the other is highly vascular (but both are indicators in body building), they "wear" something (belt and construction vest) and finally, both lines double their weapons at the final stage (Machamp gets 2>4 arms, Conkeldurr gets 1>2 construction materials) and yet they are their own designs
One is based on wrestling, body-building with references from Hindu deities/Ashura from Kinnikuman (Ultimate Muscle), while the other is based on construction, elder feudal warlords with references to drunk old asian men
If you look past the bias, I'd argue this is one of the more intelligent "reimagined" Kanto designs that Unova put out
