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I'll tell you what. Back in my day I didn't grind for SHIT in platinum, and my entire party was above level 60. I swept through the e4 with ease. Now i replay the games, grind for hours, rematch trainers and all i end up with is a level 56 starter and the rest of my team is in the 40's. If cynthia's garchomp didnt somehow miss that one i wouldnt have made it. And guess what? Both times it was fun. Now we'll be forced to use megas and z moves and legendaries and SHIT. anyone who uses any of those three can't battle without handholding. Gen iv and early gen v competitive were the best days of competitive and anyone who disagrees with me is a stupid cunt who uses primal groudons shiny talonflames and mega pokemon who spam z moves and fuck all else because they can't win a normal battle unless they do so.
