>>42087729>>"They are reliable when it comes to checking Fairy-type attackers such as Life Orb Clefable, and Hatterene.>252+ SpA Life Orb Hatterene Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 24 Def Flareon: 282-333 (84.4 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO>can't switch in if rocks are up>if you manage to be in against a Hatterene before it uses Psyshock you're forced to Wish then switch out or ProtectYea, okay. Some reliable check you have there. Can't even switch it safely. I'll give you Clefable but it just seems like a very small niche.
>>42087888I didn't mention Rotom-H, entirely different Anon you dingus.
>That means its primary niche is beating fairies specificallySee above calc of hatterene. You're not switching into it. If you get predicted your Flareon is fucked. It's a fire-type, by virtue Stealth Rocks (alongside Flare Blitz recoil damage) will make it a mediocre wall.
also look at this calc (though it's Dragapult, not a fairy type but I think it speaks about Flareon's actual bulk)
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 156+ SpD Flareon: 211-250 (63.1 - 74.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock this is only somewhat important if you invest 56 EVs into Attack>252+ SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 16 SpD Vaporeon: 184-217 (39.6 - 46.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recoveryVaporeon with little SpD investment tanks a Draco meteor so much better. Sorry, again I would really like to see Flareon viable but these people are just theory crafting. If you really want to prove me wrong get to 1500+ using Flareon & show me specific examples of it fulfilling its niche but I just don't see it happening, the whole thing is coming off as a meme to me. No one in that thread is showing any sort of actual results. I'd be more than happy to admit I'm wrong if I am but I'm not going to blindly accept that it's good just because 5 smogonites said it was good on paper.
