>>40465568>Ash beat tons of E4 leveled trainersYeah, no. If they weren't E4 they weren't titled e4 then they weren't E4. You don't get to play fast and loose with the rules just because they hurt your feelings.
>Malva wasn't mad at the lossThere is nothing to suggest this and we never see malva mad on screen because of her personality. You keep trying to force lies by omitting context it's sad.
>nor was it an official E4 title defense match. Never said it was
>If it was a real E4 battle A "real e4 battle" is a battle against an e4. By your logic the alola league wasn't a real league because there wasn't a single 6v6.
>teamSpeculation on your part. irrelevant for the most part because it doesn't make him any less the only non-champ to beat an e4 on screen.
>>40465571>I mean it was the same shit with Paul and GladionNo, it was the same with tobias. can't change your words. you said the plot demanded charizard wins and thus Greninja's loss isn't it's fault.
>luckSkill.
