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I've yet to hear a valid argument against gen 5 being solid.
>b-but ice cream and garbage Pokemon!!!1!!
This isn't an argument. This is hyper subjective and anyone with more than 3 brain cells to run together can see that they fit in line perfectly with Pokemon designs.
>they just copied gen 1 tho!!!!
Every generation is inherently a spin on gen 1 due to the fact that it laid the groundwork for how generations of pokemon are introduced.