>>51714216venufags and it's not even close, how is this a question
zardfags get everything, they have no reason to be insecure and I don't think many of them actually care about the things that you think they do beyond charizard
turtlefags (me) are mostly quiet/dead, we're ok with being the eternal second choice
venusaur has always been extremely unpopular and it's given the kids who picked it a massive chip on their shoulders