>>57788888Might call be a fucking boomer but Gen V is the cutoff, that's when 3rd stage starters started to get kinda shitty, maybe there is one that is cool here and there (Namely Decidueye and Greninja) but the rest range from mediocre to humanoid furry shit, the only outliers pre gen V are Blaziken and Infernape but one had the gimmick of being "A fighting type" so it needed to throw punches and the other is a monke (Who is also a fighter but that's besides the point).