>>39981959"Ash is a loser forever because he always loses the league" didn't become a thing until DP when the structure of the Internet became more normie-friendly, with the rise of facebook and other social media websites at that time. People would probably have forgiven if he didn't lose the league in DP especially in the contrived circumstances that made him lose. XYZ too probably, they would have probably forgiven him then even if begrudgingly.
But who am I to say this? I'm just an XYfag.