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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 16:48:18 No.12020445 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12020450 >>12020623 >>12020850 >>12022628 >>12023146

>21 Pokémon out of the 100 from generation II were single staged
1 out of 5? What the fuck, Game Freak?
I never realized back then that there were so many single stages. Without the starter and the legendaries they are 21 out of 85. Jesus christ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 16:49:07 No.12020450 Report

Quoted By: >>12020468 >>12020471 >>12020485 >>12020494

>>12020445
gen II introduced 3 3 stage evolution lines

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 16:54:22 No.12020468 Report

Quoted By: >>12020484 >>12020522

>>12020450
>the starters
fuck, gen II really sucked

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 16:55:09 No.12020471 Report

Quoted By: >>12020559

>>12020450
what about gen IV?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 16:57:00 No.12020484 Report

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>>12020468
Plus Ampharos and Tyrannitar makes 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 16:57:04 No.12020485 Report

Quoted By: >>12020522

>>12020450
>>12020450
What? They had the Tyranitar line and the Mareep line and the Hoppip line as well as the starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 16:58:40 No.12020494 Report

Quoted By: >>12020522

>>12020450
>forgetting Mareep, Hoppip, and Larvitar
>i shiggy diggy doo

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thoughtless celestial !!Mw3JLMISabd Tue 16 Apr 2013 16:59:36 No.12020500 Report

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>21 remains 21 after removing lagenderies
aren't lagagendaries single staged as well?
well, the exact number doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:03:21 No.12020522 Report

Quoted By: >>12020548

>>12020494
>>12020485
>>12020468
I thought it was implied I wasn't counting the starters?

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thoughtless celestial !!Mw3JLMISabd Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:06:34 No.12020548 Report

Quoted By: >>12020719

>>12020522
it seemed as if you ware implying the starters ware the only ones that made it to the count
the spoiler enhanced that assumption.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:08:53 No.12020559 Report

Quoted By: >>12020859

>>12020471
5 single stage evolution in Gen IV. 19 counting legendaries.

Also, 6 three stage evolutions tied with Gen II.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:13:46 No.12020590 Report

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If you'd post that on Leddit or something they'd probably start complaining about newer gens having so much evolutions and legendaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:17:15 No.12020607 Report

Quoted By: >>12020710

Had a lot of great designs and gimmick pokemon though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:19:24 No.12020623 Report

Quoted By: >>12020691

>>12020445
but the legendaries were single staged, you didnt take the legendaries from the 21, its 16/85 without legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:20:21 No.12020628 Report

Quoted By: >>12020639 >>12020655

>12020450
>Feraligatr
>Meganium
>Typhlosion
>Ampharos
>Crobat
>Bellossom to an extent
>Politoed to an extent
>Tyranitar
>Kingdra
>Jumpluff
>Raichu because of Pichu
>Clefable because of Cleffa
>Wigglytuff because of Igglybuff
So that's 13 3 stage evos

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:21:51 No.12020639 Report

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>>12020628
>including lines that existed in gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:24:22 No.12020655 Report

Quoted By: >>12020746

>>12020628
Well obviously if you include all the shit introduced in gen 1. We're talking about purely Pokemon gen 2 introduced.

OP Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:31:50 No.12020691 Report

Quoted By: >>12020715

>>12020623
nope, I counted them

OP Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:36:59 No.12020710 Report

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>>12020607
yes, I agree

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thoughtless celestial !!Mw3JLMISabd Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:39:33 No.12020715 Report

Quoted By: >>12020741

>>12020691
if 21 are singles with lagenderies, the number would drop when you stop counting lagenderies

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:40:45 No.12020719 Report

Quoted By: >>12022581

>>12020548
Not really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:43:35 No.12020732 Report

Quoted By: >>12020736

Don't forget the Maril line

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:44:22 No.12020736 Report

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>>12020732
Doesn't get 3 staged until Gen III

OP Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:45:15 No.12020741 Report

Quoted By: >>12021340

>>12020715
21 WITHOUT the legendaries

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_that_are_not_part_of_an_evolutionary_line

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:45:40 No.12020746 Report

Quoted By: >>12020763 >>12020802

>>12020655
>let's exclude things to make our case sound stronger
>crobat, bellossom, politoed, and kingdra weren't REALLY introduced!

OP Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:49:05 No.12020763 Report

Quoted By: >>12020773

>>12020746
are you stupid or what?
21 are the single staged pokémon, and so they remain.
As for the three stage lines, zubat pikachu and co were gen I.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:50:41 No.12020773 Report

Quoted By: >>12020777

>>12020763
Actually, according to that list, only 12 remain single-staged pokemon.

OP Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:51:33 No.12020777 Report

Quoted By: >>12020788

>>12020773
yep, but 21 back in 1999 they were

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OP Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:53:49 No.12020788 Report

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>>12020777
self-congratulations for trips

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 17:56:09 No.12020802 Report

Quoted By: >>12020833 >>12020922

>>12020746
>let's include things to make this gen seem not as bad as it really is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:00:31 No.12020833 Report

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>>12020802
>having evolutions to older pokemon is bad
I prefer getting a cool evolution to an older pokemon like Crobat or Weavile over getting a shit new line like Lotad's or the Panmonkeys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:02:38 No.12020850 Report

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>>12020445
single stages were a lot more common until gen IV came and evolved everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:04:25 No.12020859 Report

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>>12020559
Yeah, but gen IV added lots of needless third stages to older things

How many single stages did Gen III have, I bet it's closer to gen II. I remember a large part of the marketing for Gen IV was "70% of Pokémon have later stages now"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:19:45 No.12020922 Report

Quoted By: >>12020947 >>12021686 >>12022583

>>12020802
>Let's pretend Johto and second gen Pokemon were meant to be a standalone like 3-5 and not merely an expansion on the original 151

GSC are the only games wherein previous generation Pokemon are meant to be considered part of the game's "cast"--there are only a handful of previous gen Pokemon NOT available in the game natively, as opposed to ONLY a handful of previous gen Pokemon available in Gen 3 and 4.

The idea that a new generation meant a whole new Pokedex's worth of Pokemon was only established in Gen 3. Holding Gen 2 to that standard is folly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:21:02 No.12020932 Report

Quoted By: >>12020936 >>12020942 >>12021699 >>12022353

And now you know why Gen 2 had the worst Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:21:51 No.12020936 Report

Quoted By: >>12020948

>>12020932
But that's not even remotely true.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:23:20 No.12020942 Report

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>>12020932
Confirmed for being a lame ass nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:23:48 No.12020947 Report

Quoted By: >>12020984 >>12021040

>>12020922

And it's fucking stupid, too.

>Look, we made a new flying type to replace Pidgey!
>Look, we made new derps to replace Furret and Rattata!
>Look, we made a new psychic type to replace Abra!
>Look, we made a new grass type to replace Bellsprout!
>Look, we made a new fighting type to replace Machop!

And so on and so forth. Same problem with Gen 5, incidentally: there's no reason for any of the "new" Pokemon to exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:23:48 No.12020948 Report

Quoted By: >>12020969

>>12020936
It's either Gen II or Gen IV objectively.

Gen IV will improve when they get evos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:26:40 No.12020969 Report

Quoted By: >>12020991 >>12020992

>>12020948
>objectively
You can't say that any generation's pokemon is "objectively" the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:28:46 No.12020984 Report

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>>12020947
>Look, we made polar bears to replace brown bears!
>Look, we made toucans to replace swallows!
>Look, we made fennec foxes to replace red foxes!
Wow, it's almost like in real life how animals are different around the globe, yet fill the same role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:29:47 No.12020991 Report

Quoted By: >>12022268

>>12020969
Except for Gen I.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:29:51 No.12020992 Report

Quoted By: >>12021010 >>12021028

>>12020969
>You can't say that any generation's pokemon is "objectively" the best.

I can and I will.

1, 3 and 5 had the best. 2 and 4 had the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:31:51 No.12021010 Report

Quoted By: >>12021015

>>12020992
So what are your objective measures for making such a declaration? You don't have one? I thought so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:32:39 No.12021015 Report

Quoted By: >>12021027 >>12021035 >>12021864

>>12021010
My opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:34:28 No.12021027 Report

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>>12021015
So you're being subjective. Thanks for admitting it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:34:58 No.12021028 Report

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>>12020992
U got spitballs launched at you in elementary school. Thats a fact

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:36:18 No.12021035 Report

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>>12021015

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:36:53 No.12021040 Report

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>>12020947
By that logic, we only "need" a minimum of 289 Pokemon, one for each possible type combination--since all other attributes are apparently irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 18:56:53 No.12021160 Report

Quoted By: >>12021174

Everyone in this thread is a fucking idiot.
Just sayin'

OP Tue 16 Apr 2013 19:00:22 No.12021174 Report

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>>12021160
r u including me?

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thoughtless celestial !!Mw3JLMISabd Tue 16 Apr 2013 19:32:13 No.12021340 Report

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>>12020741
op wrote 21 out of 100 ware ssingles
those 100 included the lagaendries

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:28:37 No.12021686 Report

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>>12020922
This. People need to remember this. It was meant to expand RBY into RBYGSC instead of be a new game of its own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:29:45 No.12021699 Report

Quoted By: >>12021871

>>12020932
Gen2 had Gen1 style Pokémon. There is very little difference between them, especially as around a third were actual gen1 Pokémon that there weren't space for in RBY

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:56:35 No.12021864 Report

Quoted By: >>12022447

>>12021015
>objective
>my opinion

Am I being trelled?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:57:19 No.12021871 Report

Quoted By: >>12021916

>>12021699
Do you happen to know any that were?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:02:37 No.12021916 Report

Quoted By: >>12021980

>>12021871
One assumes Marril, Togepi and Ho-oh were amongst them but I can't remember for certain.

I remember we had a thread once where someone made quite a convincing argument for which ones they were, but again I can't remember which and how it was concluded. What is certain is that RG was eventually supposed to have 190 Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:09:32 No.12021980 Report

Quoted By: >>12022034 >>12022077

>>12021916
I believe it was by index number.
See
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number_(Generation_I)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:15:03 No.12022034 Report

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>>12021980
Yeah, that was it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:18:29 No.12022077 Report

Quoted By: >>12022158

>>12021980
Oh, Hitmontop and Tyrouge, that's cool.
And Smoochum, Magby and Elekid? That's also cool, their evolutions always feel more like evolved Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:24:58 No.12022158 Report

Quoted By: >>12022210 >>12022301

>>12022077

However, it's interesting that they basically had hitmontop ready for gen 1, but the design was so radically different, assuming it's the same as that weird clefairy one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:27:59 No.12022210 Report

Quoted By:

>>12022158
Clefairy one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:32:48 No.12022268 Report

Quoted By:

>>12020991
Which is the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:36:09 No.12022301 Report

Quoted By: >>12022320

>>12022158
The clefairy one was dropped because it was too similar to hitmontop, not because it was hitmontop and they came up with a better design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:37:41 No.12022320 Report

Quoted By: >>12022342

>>12022301
Clefairy what?

OP Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:39:27 No.12022342 Report

Quoted By: >>12022545

>>12022320
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lujilrZBY51r64jmlo1_500.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:40:08 No.12022353 Report

Quoted By: >>12022564

>>12020932
Gen 3 and Gen 4 had the worst pokemon.
Gen 5 had the best, with Gen 1 and Gen 2 close behind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:49:14 No.12022447 Report

Quoted By: >>12022495 >>12022561

>>12021864
My opinions are objectively right, and your opinions are shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:53:01 No.12022495 Report

Quoted By: >>12022519 >>12022561

>>12022447
My opinion is that your opinion is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:55:06 No.12022519 Report

Quoted By: >>12022534 >>12022561

>>12022495
My opinion is that your opinion is right
TAKE THAT SUCKER

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:56:35 No.12022534 Report

Quoted By: >>12022561

>>12022519
My opinion is that your opinion about his opinion is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:57:39 No.12022545 Report

Quoted By: >>12022568

>>12022342
>posting links to images on an image board
wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:59:00 No.12022561 Report

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>>12022447
>>12022495
>>12022519
>>12022534
Samefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:59:18 No.12022564 Report

Quoted By:

>>12022353
>having opinions this shit

OP Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:59:45 No.12022568 Report

Quoted By:

>>12022545
2 lazy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:00:55 No.12022581 Report

Quoted By:

>>12020719

Yes really.

Read your sentences before you post them you ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:01:21 No.12022583 Report

Quoted By: >>12022599

>>12020922
With that logic we may as well also include gen 1 three stagers. We're talking about just gen 2, expansion or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:03:23 No.12022599 Report

Quoted By: >>12023303

>>12022583
He just doesn't want to accept that Gen 2 is the worst game when it comes to pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:06:28 No.12022628 Report

Quoted By: >>12022879 >>12023096

>>12020445
>How many single stages did Gen III have
I make it 3 single staged Pokémon out of 135

truteal

truteal Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:28:49 No.12022857 Report

Quoted By: >>12022879

Gen III probably had more

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:30:41 No.12022879 Report

Quoted By:

>>12022857
See
>>12022628

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:54:17 No.12023096 Report

Quoted By: >>12023150

>>12022628
Gen three introduced 19 single staged Pokemon dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:58:25 No.12023146 Report

Quoted By: >>12023162

>>12020445

Has anyone else realized OP counted 21 of 100? and not 151? Is everyone that easily trolled?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:58:34 No.12023150 Report

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>>12023096
Oh shit balls. I meant to type 23 not 3. Bugger.

I'm still holding to that 23 number as well

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:59:19 No.12023162 Report

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>>12023146
There were only 100 new pokémon in gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:04:34 No.12023239 Report

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No matter what anyone says, I was always hold my opinion that gen 2 was overall the most bland and forgettable gen in terms of Pokemon designs.
1=5>3>4>2

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:09:56 No.12023303 Report

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>>12022599
But it's not. The number of single-stage pokemon in a gen has no bearing on how good the pokes it introduced is. You have some awesome pokes like Snorlax, Heracross and Sableye that don't evolve, and then you have awful lines like Burmy's or Slugma's and some pokemon that are cool but their evolution ruins them, like Surskit and Trubbish.

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