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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 19:57:58 No.12021495 View View Reply Original Report

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Would Sharpedo be OU if it had work up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 19:58:48 No.12021501 Report

Quoted By: >>12021512

it would be OU if it would be used more often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:00:04 No.12021512 Report

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>>12021501
Would it being able to use work up convince more people to use it enough for it to be OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:02:07 No.12021529 Report

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Maybe. Few people are willing to give up protect for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:02:15 No.12021530 Report

Quoted By: >>12021536

It would be OU if it didn't die to a gentle breeze.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:03:00 No.12021535 Report

Quoted By: >>12021540

No. What exactly would change?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:03:24 No.12021536 Report

Quoted By: >>12021553 >>12021559

>>12021530
>sharpedo
>ever being successfully attacked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:04:01 No.12021540 Report

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>>12021535
>that mixed attacking potential

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:07:14 No.12021553 Report

Quoted By: >>12021560 >>12021715

>>12021536
>What is Breloom's mach punch?
>What is Anything's mach punch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:08:25 No.12021559 Report

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>>12021536
Hitmonchan use Mach Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:08:31 No.12021560 Report

Quoted By: >>12021575 >>12021582 >>12021583

>>12021553
>breloom
>the only prolific mach punch user in OU
>oh this single pokemon is a full stop to it so its bad

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:09:33 No.12021566 Report

Quoted By: >>12021642

Would weavile be OU if it had technician?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:11:24 No.12021575 Report

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>>12021560
if it was the only counter it would be on pretty much every team.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:12:02 No.12021582 Report

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>>12021560
>pokemon only count as a counter if they're OU
you're the reason that karenfags hate on smogon so often
anyway, mach punch was only an example, Sharpedo's 70/40/40 could most likely be OHKO'd by any hard hitting priority attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:12:10 No.12021583 Report

Quoted By: >>12021590

>>12021560
>forgetting about Conkeldurr's Mach Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:12:53 No.12021590 Report

Quoted By: >>12021596 >>12021607

>>12021583
>anyone ever using conkeldurr

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:14:02 No.12021595 Report

Quoted By: >>12021622 >>12021631

What are you going to work up on?

Choice scarf psyshocks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:14:20 No.12021596 Report

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>>12021590
>people not using Conkeldurr
You're worse than the people that are letting Reuniclus drop to near UU status

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:15:38 No.12021607 Report

Quoted By: >>12021624 >>12021634

>>12021590

I see Conkeldurr a lot these days. It seemed to drop off the radar for a while, but it's back with a bang now.

Plus I'm fairly sure that CB Scizor is capable of killing Sharpedo with Bullet Punch. If not from full health, then after SR damage, I'm willing to bet.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:16:24 No.12021617 Report

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>Implying Sharpedo has the bulk to pop off a Work Up without a Focus Sash

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:16:44 No.12021622 Report

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>>12021595
>inb4 focus sash

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:17:06 No.12021624 Report

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>>12021607
Including Spikes and Sand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:18:09 No.12021631 Report

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>>12021595
Do you even make switches happen?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:18:37 No.12021634 Report

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>>12021607

Turns out I was wrong, Sharpedo isn't THAT frail.

252 Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor (+Atk) Bullet Punch vs 0 HP/0 Def Sharpedo: 58.36% - 68.68% (2 hits to KO)

But after SR and a couple of rounds of Life Orb recoil, Sharpedo comes well within KO range of Scizor.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:20:24 No.12021642 Report

Quoted By: >>12021646 >>12021648 >>12021651 >>12021695 >>12021698

>>12021566

>Technician Weavile
>Ice Shard
>Pursuit
>Areal Ace?
>Low Sweep?

>mfw I think I'm missing something big time

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:21:38 No.12021646 Report

Quoted By: >>12021662

>>12021642
A set of ice shard, low sweep, pursuit (or faint attack) and swords dance would be excellent

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:21:52 No.12021648 Report

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>>12021642

Bite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:22:07 No.12021651 Report

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>>12021642
This would be amazing

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:24:15 No.12021662 Report

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>>12021646
>Faint Attack/Pursuit
>Ice Shard
>Low sweep/Low Kick
>Aerial Ace/Swords Dance
>Adamant or Jolly natured

How's that for you Weavilefags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:29:14 No.12021695 Report

Quoted By: >>12021709

>>12021642
Adamant w/Technician

Fake Out
Ice Shard
Pursuit
Low Sweep

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:29:45 No.12021698 Report

Quoted By: >>12021713

>>12021642
>using low sweep instead of low kick in OU
DISGUSTING

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:32:44 No.12021709 Report

Quoted By: >>12021729

>>12021695
>crippling that excellent speed with an adamant nature

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:33:13 No.12021713 Report

Quoted By: >>12021728

>>12021698
Technician Low Sweep has a power of 90, or 117 with Life Orb.

Combined with the fact that it lowers the speed of your opponent, it could be very useful for the rest of your team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:33:27 No.12021715 Report

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>>12021553
Bro, do you even Focus Sash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:35:22 No.12021728 Report

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>>12021713

And would Low kick even benefit from Technician?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:35:27 No.12021729 Report

Quoted By: >>12021772

>>12021709
You're using Fake Out and Ice Shard, two attacks that have priority, and Pursuit is there to threaten ghosts and psychics who have no reason to stay in on Weavile.

Weavile is already faster than most other priority users. Why wouldn't you go for more power in your attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:43:23 No.12021772 Report

Quoted By: >>12021794

>>12021729
Gotta outspeed alakazam man

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:46:29 No.12021790 Report

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>>12021631
Only a retard would switch against a hypothetical work up sharpedo.

It's just like a blaziken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:47:46 No.12021794 Report

Quoted By: >>12021842

>>12021772
Ice Shard, with Technician and Life orb has 117 base power and has priority coming off of 372 attack. Alakazam is dead.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 20:54:26 No.12021842 Report

Quoted By: >>12021910

>>12021794

Screens

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 21:02:01 No.12021910 Report

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>>12021842
Smogon damage calculator is saying it's still a one hit KO, even with Reflect up.

Also, don't forget about Fake Out.

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