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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:52:38 No.12023076 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12023202 >>12023365 >>12026104 >>12027319 >>12027330 >>12027357

SUB PROTECT SUB PROTECT SUB PROTECT SUB PROTECTSUB PROTECT SUB PROTECTSUB PROTECT SUB PROTECTSUB PROTECT SUB PROTECTSUB PROTECT SUB PROTECT

what do you do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:53:17 No.12023084 Report

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cry, that or skarmory

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:53:40 No.12023089 Report

Quoted By: >>12023098

Keep harassing with any ice type ever with a move with more than 5 pp

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:54:19 No.12023098 Report

Quoted By: >>12023133

>>12023089
that's the whole reason for the sub protect. it doesn't matter how strong or super effective your moves are

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:54:46 No.12023104 Report

Quoted By: >>12023117

>switch switch switch switch switch switch
He'll run out of PP eventually. He's not doing any damage, he's just using the same two moves over and over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:55:55 No.12023117 Report

Quoted By: >>12023121 >>12023135

>>12023104
have fun with toxic and sneaky stones

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:56:27 No.12023121 Report

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>>12023117
probably sand as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:56:30 No.12023124 Report

Quoted By: >>12023153

cloyster used icicle spear!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:57:22 No.12023132 Report

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Icicle Spear, or a different multi-hit move depending on the 'mon you're up against

It's why I always run Dual Chop on Garchomp instead of Dragon Claw/Outrage

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:57:26 No.12023133 Report

Quoted By: >>12023143

>>12023098
That's the whole reason you have any ice move with more than 5 pp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:57:27 No.12023135 Report

Quoted By: >>12023154

>>12023117
Toxic does pissall damage if you're switching since its counter gets reset to 1/16th of your health every turn.

And nobody said anything about any sneaky stones being in play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:58:08 No.12023143 Report

Quoted By: >>12023173 >>12023212

>>12023133
so you never get through his defence, while sand and toxic kill you.

you've never fought Gliscor before have you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:58:36 No.12023153 Report

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>>12023124
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:58:40 No.12023154 Report

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>>12023135
sneaky stones are always in play

always

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:00:03 No.12023173 Report

Quoted By: >>12023180

>>12023143
I've never fought OU before

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:00:13 No.12023175 Report

Quoted By: >>12023191

Balloon Heatran
Bronzong
Skarmory

These three can take on SubProtect Gliscor at anytime (unless, for some reason, it runs Ice Fang over Toxic or Taunt). But more realistically, you're not supposed to let it Substitute. There are several, very fast Pokemon that CAN dispatch Gliscor before it even starts SubProtecting it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:00:30 No.12023180 Report

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>>12023173
have you fought sub protect anything before?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:01:15 No.12023191 Report

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>>12023175
>inb4 bring it in against a wall

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:01:47 No.12023202 Report

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>>12023076
This is why I run Icicle Spear mamoswine

this and those cheeky subpunch brelooms can suck my popsicle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:02:20 No.12023212 Report

Quoted By: >>12023226 >>12023289

>>12023143
Protect maxes out at 16 uses and he can't use sub again if a sub is out. I have to survive 16 turns. Even if Toxic Spikes are in play I can switch between two mons and he'll have used up all of his protects with two of my mons having lost a combined total of 50% HP.

I break the sub, then I hit his bitch ass with an ice attack presuming I outspeed him (let's say I do).

If sneaky stones or sand are in play, you've gotta SAY sneaky stones or sand are in play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:03:17 No.12023226 Report

Quoted By: >>12023261

>>12023212
>break sub
>he uses sub the turn you break the sub
>he protects
>repeat
you need to last 32 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:04:52 No.12023243 Report

Quoted By: >>12023349

>Whirlwind

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:06:17 No.12023261 Report

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>>12023226
You don't break the sub until he's out of protects.

Though that's not accounting for whatever other moves he has.

Actually for that matter you could just run an odd switch-pattern so he wastes protects not knowing when you're gonna break his sub

>switch, attack
>switch, switch, switch
>attack, switch
>switch, switch
>attack, switch
>switch, switch, switch, attack

Or some shit. He can't set the sub up on the turn you break it if he can't predict when you'll try to break it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:07:25 No.12023276 Report

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Taunt or Icicle Spear

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:09:01 No.12023289 Report

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>>12023212

Sneaky stones are almost always in play.

@OP I usually phaze them with a Roar or Whirlwind, then I try to prevent them from setting up again, when I later am able to take it out.

Also an Air Balloon Heatran, Skarmory, Bronzong, Gengar, Air Balloon Magnezone, or your own Gliscor can do wonders. Cloyster can Ice Spear through it's sub, as well as Mamoswine if you run that move on him. You can always run taunt on something, too.

BXL

BXL Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:14:30 No.12023349 Report

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>>12023243
this.
this.
this.
this.

stay pleb faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:16:02 No.12023365 Report

Quoted By: >>12023431 >>12023445 >>12027795

>>12023076
roar/self destruct

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:23:35 No.12023431 Report

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>>12023365
>self-destruct
shiggy diggy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:25:16 No.12023445 Report

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>>12023365
>not using Momento

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:39:26 No.12023590 Report

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>subprotect gliscor
>worse than subseed venu, tormentran or stallrein

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:44:59 No.12023653 Report

Quoted By: >>12023667

>95 base speed, never scarfed
>hard to deal with it
yeah nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:46:04 No.12023667 Report

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>>12023653
What makes you say that? Do you run hyper offensive?

PH4GG3T

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PH4GG3T Wed 17 Apr 2013 04:03:58 No.12026104 Report

Quoted By: >>12027284

>>12023076
Use Bulk Up Scrafty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:46:30 No.12027284 Report

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>>12026104
Shed Skin BU Scrafty, with Drain Punch and Substitute of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:52:13 No.12027319 Report

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>>12023076
>Whimsicott used Taunt/Stun Spore!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:53:48 No.12027330 Report

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>>12023076
>Gengar used Disable
REKT

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:57:26 No.12027344 Report

Quoted By: >>12027348 >>12027392

4 hits from icicle spear can kill it clean through a sub

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 06:58:25 No.12027348 Report

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>>12027344
>can
should say "will"
>252 Atk Life Orb Mamoswine Icicle Spear (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 184+ Def Gliscor: 420-516 (118.64 - 145.76%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 07:00:26 No.12027357 Report

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>>12023076
>run a Dunsparce
>run into Jap fag using this
>He let me set up six coils. SIX. FUCKING. COILS!
>Rock Slide and Headbutts for everyone!
>He eventually runs out of PP for Sub and Protect
>Tries to attack
>It is Bulldoze instead of Earthquake

And Here I thought Japs were good at this game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 07:04:11 No.12027374 Report

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Rattata @ NeverMeltIce

>Flame Wheel
>Rain Dance
>Snore
>Rest

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 07:08:48 No.12027392 Report

Quoted By: >>12027410

>>12027344
that is an ugly mamoswine image, isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 07:12:25 No.12027410 Report

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>>12027392
Mamoswine's just ugly in general anon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 08:54:26 No.12027779 Report

Quoted By: >>12028162

I always send him in, especially on an Ice Fang, straightens scor's shit real quick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 09:01:29 No.12027795 Report

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>>12023365
>not explosion

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Apr 2013 11:24:19 No.12028162 Report

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>>12027779
I do a similar thing
>gliscor used toxic
>chansey was poisoned!
>chansey used skillswap

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