Alright /vp/ if you have a Gamecube and you didn't play these two masterpieces you are the kind of trash that equates to liking Honchkrow.

These are the best mother fucking games in the entire series.

Let me explain something to you tards:

>Post-Apoc setting, hardcore and edgy, but still cartoony and retains some humorous elements
>2 teams with one having a superiority complex and being legitimately evil. None of that pussy team rocket bullshit
>Cipher is so fucking badass they were the first trainer NPCs to have legendaries, they are legit evil and actually wanna fuck over the world (and come close)
>Limited pool of possible Pokemon to catch makes game difficult without Nuzlocke stupidity
>Main characters are both complete badasses unlike those 10 year old faggots you have to play in the handhelds
>Start with Eeveelutions (or Eevee)
>Fuckin steal other people's Pokemon. Chaotic Good up in this shit.
>11/10 Soundtracks
>Old stadium aspects still return to appease faggity genwunners
>12/10 Soundtracks
>MIROR FUCKING B