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Alfhedil Elf-Hewer Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:40:58 No.12146662 View View Reply Original Report

I'm waiting on a:

Normal/Ghost (come on already)
Fire/Grass
Steel/Ghost
Bug-type with Thick Fat

Can't think of any other typing that would be remotely interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:42:21 No.12146673 Report

Quoted By: >>12146681 >>12146696 >>12146705 >>12146708

Why a bug type with Thick Fat?

Why not just Flash Fire or Heatproof?

Or just a type that halves the damage from fire? Why specifically that combination? What insect has a layer of thick fat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:42:23 No.12146674 Report

Quoted By: >>12146713

>fire/grass

no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:42:25 No.12146675 Report

Quoted By: >>12146707

bugs don't have fat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:43:19 No.12146681 Report

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>>12146673
A fat grub worm.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:44:45 No.12146691 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:45:00 No.12146696 Report

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>>12146673

Cockroaches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:45:50 No.12146700 Report

Quoted By: >>12146716

I want my Electric/Psychic but I know it would end up being one of those pokémon with shit stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:46:16 No.12146705 Report

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>>12146673

>What insect has a layer of thick fat?

since pokemon isn't the real world, an undiscovered one.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:46:22 No.12146707 Report

Quoted By: >>12146713 >>12146727

>>12146675

yes

it could be something silly yet cool like a chili pepper

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:46:23 No.12146708 Report

Quoted By: >>12146745 >>12146892

>>12146673
Those two aren't as good. A pure Bug with Thick Fast would be a defensive monster.

Considering that there are zero bugs with decent defenses (Durant and Forretress don't count, they're steel types) you could kill two birds with one stone with such a pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:46:53 No.12146713 Report

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>>12146707

meant to reply to >>12146674

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:47:05 No.12146716 Report

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>>12146700
sounds like it would easily get at least 120 sp atk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:48:18 No.12146727 Report

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>>12146707
i would say i would quit pokemon but im still here after ice cream

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:48:18 No.12146728 Report

Quoted By: >>12146731 >>12146734

I like this Fire/Poison guy. I wish Gamefreak would do a fire/poison type, it would get raped by EQ but still

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:48:49 No.12146731 Report

Quoted By: >>12146736 >>12147215

>>12146728
digimon/10

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:49:23 No.12146734 Report

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>>12146728
I don't think that makes sense. Too many Pokemon already with double weakness to Ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:49:25 No.12146736 Report

Quoted By: >>12146749

>>12146731
lurk and play more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:50:15 No.12146745 Report

Quoted By: >>12146752 >>12146797

>>12146708
It would still be weak to rocks, which is its biggest weakness.
Then there's the widespread use of acrobatics and it's already neutral to ice.

You're basically just giving it heatproof to brag about instead of a good ability.
Like Magic Guard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:50:32 No.12146748 Report

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Still want my bug/psychic type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:50:55 No.12146749 Report

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>>12146736
you first

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:51:29 No.12146752 Report

Quoted By: >>12146764

>>12146745
unless it's something that has 4x weakness to rocks it can't be too bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:52:58 No.12146764 Report

Quoted By: >>12146777

>>12146752
25% means you can only switch in four times. That coupled with U-Turn wanting to be one of your best moves sort of puts you at a disadvantage. Especially if you're trying to be defensive using that ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:54:29 No.12146777 Report

Quoted By: >>12146785 >>12146797

>>12146764
fine make it bug and something resistant to rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:54:36 No.12146779 Report

Quoted By: >>12146814 >>12146969

>normal
>interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:55:08 No.12146785 Report

Quoted By: >>12146797

>>12146777
Heracross and Scizor both already exist and are already top of their tiers.

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:56:24 No.12146797 Report

Quoted By: >>12146819 >>12146855

>>12146745
Except I'm not giving it Heatproof because it's even worse than Thick Fat, and Thick Fat on almost any other type of Pokemon is a pretty damn weak ability.

Not that Magic Guard wouldn't help if GF failed again to fix Stealth Rock.

>>12146777
>>12146785
Those are Steel Pokemon first and Bug pokemon second.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:57:47 No.12146809 Report

Quoted By: >>12146855 >>12146887

>normal/ghost
one weakness only, give it focus blast/shadow ball and it'll be invincible
>fire/grass
suicidal
>steel/ghost
THIS
>bug with thick fat
where's the fucking logic in that

Gear !!8NwjRFpF6q1

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Gear !!8NwjRFpF6q1 Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:58:35 No.12146814 Report

Quoted By: >>12146855

>>12146779

>Normal
>not the most underrated type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 18:59:18 No.12146819 Report

Quoted By: >>12146855

>>12146797
Bug isn't weak to ice and thick fat only gives a 50% resistance.
A random ice resistance wouldn't make anything good with everything else dominating the metagame.

>Those are Steel Pokemon first and Bug pokemon second
Except they're not. A simple google search would show they're bugs first and steel/fighting second.

Besides, Scizor uses U-turn as much as it uses Bullet punch, and Heracross's main STAB is Megahorn.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:00:08 No.12146823 Report

Quoted By: >>12146824

>>12146662
Normal/ghost is just inconceivable to me.
I support fire/grass
I could see steel/ghost, like a re-animated machine or something, but they'd have to e careful not to venture into a creating digimon-esque creatures.
No opinion about bug types.
Still pulling for another ghost/dragon, water/dragon, and a fire/water fucking finally. Not as many normal or grass next gen is my vote. Pic related, they both are awful types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:00:44 No.12146824 Report

Quoted By: >>12146854 >>12146861

>>12146823
>Normal/ghost is just inconceivable to me.
Zombies nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:03:02 No.12146844 Report

Quoted By: >>12146855

>>12146662

Steel/Ghost with levitate

and Fighting/Ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:04:14 No.12146854 Report

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>>12146824
Noted. That said, fuck that. I do not, under any circumstances, want a zombie pokemon.

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:04:18 No.12146855 Report

Quoted By: >>12146895

>>12146797
>heracross
>steel
My bad, thought he said Forretress. Even so, those Pokemon have quad weaknesses.

>>12146809
You'd be surprised how well Fire and Grass cancel out each others' weaknesses.

>>12146814
>underrated
By whom?

>>12146819
>A simple google search would show
I meant functionally, not literally, you aspie.

>>12146844
>Warrior's Spirit
I like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:04:57 No.12146861 Report

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>>12146824

Banette could have been the perfect Normal/Ghost type since it's a spirit in a doll but GF dropped the ball on that one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:07:47 No.12146887 Report

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>>12146809
>suicidal
Fire/Grass is a deceptively brilliant type. Grass normalizes fire's weaknesses to water and ground, while fire normalizes grass' weaknesses to ice, fire and bug. That leaves only weaknesses to rock, flying and poison, and poison isn't used offensively.

So essentially, you have a typing with practically only 2 weaknesses (both being only 2x) since you're not going to get targeted with poison attacks. It also 4x resists grass, resists steel, resists electric and is immune to leech seed. Pretty decent, if you consider its synergy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:08:16 No.12146892 Report

Quoted By: >>12146899

>>12146708
Ice isn't SE against Bug. Just giving them Flash Fire or something is enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:08:36 No.12146895 Report

Quoted By: >>12146994

>>12146855
> Even so, those Pokemon have quad weaknesses.
And yet Heracross is the most commonly used Pokemon in UU, Scizor is on something like 1 in every 5 OU teams.

>I meant functionally, not literally, you aspie.
Let's just ignore how I just said Scizor is spamming U-turn for prediction and Heracross enjoys staying in for moxie boosts, or so the burn orb isn't wasted over the toxic, which means it can't afford too many defense losses.

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:08:58 No.12146899 Report

Quoted By: >>12146943

>>12146892
And people thought Thick Fat would be hard to justify.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:12:22 No.12146938 Report

Quoted By: >>12147006 >>12147012

waiting on a goddamn grass/ghost here, favorite types

inb4 implications and shit taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:12:50 No.12146943 Report

Quoted By: >>12146977 >>12146994

>>12146899
What bug would possibly be fat enough to have Thick Fat? A caterpillar thing maybe? A...a maggot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:16:06 No.12146969 Report

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>>12146779
Actually it's pretty solid.
Gets rid of the ghost weakness.
However if its too tough, we'd see more dark buffs or dark HPs which I get tired of.
I don't hate dark types but they're usually just not my favorites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:16:57 No.12146977 Report

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>>12146943
A plump lil' grubworm pokemon could be cute.

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:18:24 No.12146994 Report

Quoted By: >>12147003

>>12146895
Aware. But that's mostly because of how insanely hard GF needs to work to make a Steel dual-type that doesn't define the metagame, and because Heracross would be a brilliant pokemon without its niche as an assault Bug.

Steel is not much of an offensive typing as Bug is in the higher tiers but it IS the only reason Scizor and Forretress are viable.

>>12146943
Something like that. I've seen almost every notable insect portrayed as a fat, lumbering insect (often, even in flight) so I'm not picky. Someone mentioned cockroaches, which aren't particularly fat IN NATURE but have strong resistances that Thick Fat would convey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:19:35 No.12147003 Report

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>>12146994
put a cockroach in the microwave and see what happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:19:52 No.12147006 Report

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>>12146938

Oh, nice. A pumkin could work also.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:20:02 No.12147012 Report

Quoted By: >>12147026 >>12147031

>>12146938
I really like the idea of grass/ghost , though i would more like to see water/ghost.

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer

Alfhedil Elf-Hewer Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:21:22 No.12147026 Report

Quoted By: >>12147053 >>12147087

>>12147012
Like Jellicent?

Grass/Ghost sounds good to me, although the two have absolutely no synergy nor mutual detriment. Let it happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:21:36 No.12147027 Report

Quoted By: >>12147049 >>12147063

I expected Rotom to be Steel/Ghost, since it's the spirit of machines...how is a washing machine not Steel??

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:22:02 No.12147031 Report

Quoted By: >>12147053

>>12147012

Jellicent, pal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:23:46 No.12147049 Report

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>>12147027

Makes a lot more sense being electric/ghost

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:24:27 No.12147053 Report

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>>12147026
>>12147031
gen 5 doesn't count

Gear !!8NwjRFpF6q1

Gear !!8NwjRFpF6q1 Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:25:23 No.12147063 Report

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>>12147027

It's an electronic poltergeist. Makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:27:36 No.12147087 Report

Quoted By: >>12147095

>>12147026
frankly I would be fine with a not-so-great gimmicky pokèmon as long as it's cool and works well outside competitive

I just really like the idea of a grass/ghost, there's so many things that can be done with it thematically

>mfw it's going to have nothing to do with any of those things when it happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:28:25 No.12147091 Report

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guys
what if
rock/ghost

it's a pet rock that died from neglect
now it's an angry ghost

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:28:49 No.12147095 Report

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>>12147087
forgot the fw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:29:27 No.12147100 Report

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waiting on a poison/ice or poison/steel

though that opens up to much ground weakness maybe the ice one could get levitate idk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:39:25 No.12147199 Report

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>>12146691
This image would be much better if the ones have HAVE been used were grayed out instead, I can't read that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2013 19:40:43 No.12147215 Report

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>>12146731
>I've never watched Digimon in my life

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