/vp/ - Pokémon » Thread #12160600

[43 / 6 / ?]

42KiB, 223x223, 454.png

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:13:44 No.12160600 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12160708 >>12160725

ITT pokemon with poor stat distribution but BSTs too high to receive an evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:17:17 No.12160640 Report

Quoted By: >>12160841

Huh, I never looked at Croak's stats before.

106 is its highest yet its BST is 490, the fuck is that?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 210px-357Tropius.png, 51KiB, 210x201

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:20:02 No.12160680 Report

Quoted By: >>12160741 >>12160876

/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:20:36 No.12160687 Report

Quoted By:

490 is not high at all.
Porygon2 is 515 and his evo is 535
And I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting some NFEs with higher BSTs than Porygon2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:21:10 No.12160694 Report

Quoted By: >>12160715 >>12160841

It's because they gave him wau too much spA. He doesn't need to use it, nor can he.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1367111506294.jpg, 20KiB, 300x300

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:22:05 No.12160705 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:22:33 No.12160708 Report

Quoted By: >>12160733

>>12160600
Can't we just do a slight buff/stat re-distribution like they did with Scizor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:23:01 No.12160715 Report

Quoted By: >>12160841

>>12160694
>tfw toxicroak has fuckhuge retarded amounts of passive recovery but no bulk

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:23:07 No.12160717 Report

Quoted By: >>12160733

They could always get a redistribution like Scizor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:23:39 No.12160725 Report

Quoted By:

>>12160600
They could always bump him up to 500 with the evo and rearrange the states.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:24:14 No.12160733 Report

Quoted By:

>>12160708
>>12160717
It would most likely involve a type change, and Toxicroak's typing is one of his strongest selling points

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:24:40 No.12160741 Report

Quoted By: >>12160754 >>12160859

>>12160680
460 really isn't that much. Porygon2 had 515. Don't lose hope, Tropius ! You, alongside Lanturn, Sharpedo, Camerupt and Breloom will get an evo someday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:25:21 No.12160754 Report

Quoted By:

>>12160741
>breloom
Now you're just being nasty

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 8713993.jpg, 80KiB, 417x525

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:26:04 No.12160764 Report

Quoted By: >>12160790

They could always get a stat redistribution like the Pory line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:27:17 No.12160780 Report

Quoted By:

Rhydon is 485
Electabuzz is 490
Magmar is 495
Scyther is 500
Porygon2 is 515

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:28:07 No.12160790 Report

Quoted By:

>>12160764
Pory2 is 515
PoryZ is 535

It wasn't a pure stat redistribution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:29:51 No.12160810 Report

Quoted By: >>12160833

>490
>high

Considering the BST ceiling for regular pokemon is fuckign 540-550 these days it can easily get an evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:31:50 No.12160833 Report

Quoted By:

>>12160810
This. Any pokemon that's lower than that number can simply get extra stat points + new ability for their evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:32:33 No.12160841 Report

Quoted By: >>12160919

>>12160640
>>12160694

Jack of all trades.
"Look, it can attack physically, AND Nasty Plot Vacuum Wave, something you'll never successfully pull off!'

Far better to specialize, ex. Snorlax for an extreme example.

>>12160715
It's bulk can be decent if you fully invest. It kind of acts like a bizarro Gliscor with slightly less bulk and with a different set of type advantages.
But everyone goes 252HP/252Attack [or the 244 HP/Xwhatever if you go Bulk Up].

Hey, Smogon has a new set for Toxic Stall. This is how to use a bulky Toxicroak properly. Good to see it finally gets recognition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:33:18 No.12160859 Report

Quoted By:

>>12160741
>brellom
If that were to happen, the final form would be insta OU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:34:27 No.12160876 Report

Quoted By:

>>12160680
one of my favorite pokemon
Its really a shame. The pre evo would be really cute, and I imagine the post evo as a grass dragon type that rapes bitched

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:37:13 No.12160919 Report

Quoted By: >>12161076 >>12161271

>>12160841
I use a variation of the toxic stall set, its ev'd so
>cb terrakion does not 2hko under rain
>defensive rotoms volt switch can't break its sub
>it KOs Dnite after stealth rocks with ice punch

I use toxic spikes so I can run sub and protect, and it can beat celebi and Jellicent because of it
>tfw beating Tykeldorus core with little support

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:50:22 No.12161076 Report

Quoted By: >>12161113

>>12160919
I wonder, considering its resistances could it run torment effectively?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Rampardos.jpg, 10KiB, 247x200

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:52:40 No.12161103 Report

Quoted By: >>12161156

Swap its HP and Speed, instant OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:53:08 No.12161113 Report

Quoted By:

>>12161076
I wouldnt be as great because his move pool checks alot of the main threats you see everyday and beside Heatran is the best torment user

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:56:51 No.12161156 Report

Quoted By: >>12161180

>>12161103
More like
>Scizor gets even more OU
>fighting types dominate the metagame even more than before
>swift swim drizzle is still banned
>chlorophyll grass types get a bit stronger

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:58:20 No.12161180 Report

Quoted By: >>12161196 >>12161287

>>12161156
Alright, fine.
New ability: Stubborn
>Immune to Fighting moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 00:59:54 No.12161196 Report

Quoted By: >>12161205 >>12161248

>>12161180
>scizor is now laughing as he gains an absolute monopoly over OU

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1360063783895.png, 4KiB, 168x166

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:01:08 No.12161205 Report

Quoted By: >>12161209 >>12161224

>>12161196
it's always about scizor, isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:01:43 No.12161209 Report

Quoted By:

>>12161205
Only because he's making it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:02:40 No.12161224 Report

Quoted By: >>12161243

>>12161205
I mean he's already literally on 1 in every 5 teams. Our of all 649 (minus ubers) Pokemon.

You're just making the strong get stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:04:23 No.12161243 Report

Quoted By: >>12161259 >>12161321

>>12161224
Yeah, I agree. Scizor is fucking boring now. It's basically a badge saying "I can't come up with an original way to play".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:04:48 No.12161248 Report

Quoted By:

>>12161196
>implying you would run that over Technician anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:05:41 No.12161259 Report

Quoted By:

>>12161243
Hey hey hey, that only goes for CB scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:06:10 No.12161271 Report

Quoted By: >>12161280 >>12161284

>>12160919

>toxicroak beating Landorus-I.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:06:53 No.12161280 Report

Quoted By:

>>12161271
What if toxicroak ran nasty plot+HP Water

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:07:17 No.12161284 Report

Quoted By: >>12161339

>>12161271
I had successfully toxic stalled the other two without losing my sub, then OHKO'd it with ice punch as it broke my sub

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:07:29 No.12161287 Report

Quoted By: >>12161302 >>12161304

>>12161180

>Scizor loses Technician, leaving him with a weaker Bullet Punch, an attack crucial in fixing his terrible speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:08:09 No.12161296 Report

Quoted By:

>Not using a Scarf Scizor to fuck with people

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:08:34 No.12161302 Report

Quoted By:

>>12161287
I think he means Rampardos would get that ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:08:46 No.12161304 Report

Quoted By:

>>12161287
>he gains a new ability that doubles his attack whenever something switches out or in
>double power U-turn and 4x pursuit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:10:40 No.12161321 Report

Quoted By:

>>12161243

He's a nice way to fill a spot on your team that otherwise you'll have trouble filling due to his role in having a decent priority move, pursuit, and U-turn, but I've found that Sash Alakazam can fit a sixth spot better by breaking an opposing sweep, and sometimes he sweeps himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2013 01:12:00 No.12161339 Report

Quoted By:

>>12161284

Then what about the other three Pokes? And you can say the same thing about Gliscor with Ice Fang.

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these archives

Your latest searches